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Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 12:55 BST (UK) »
This practice has taken place since at least the Crimean War against Russia in the 1850s, examples Sebastapol and Alma (cities) used as forenames, and possibly the wars against France in the first decades of the 19th century, examples Nelson and Wellington (commanders) .
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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 April 24 13:13 BST (UK) »
An ancestor was given the middle name Nelson in 1798 following
the Battle of the Nile Delta.
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Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 April 24 13:41 BST (UK) »
Talavera Vernon Anson baptised 9th Jan 1810 St George, Hanover Square, Westimnster, parents George and Frances Anson. His Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talavera_Vernon_Anson?wprov=sfti1

He was the son of General Sir George Anson, who fought at the Battle of Talavera, 1809.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Anson_(British_Army_officer,_born_1769)?wprov=sfti1

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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 April 24 13:50 BST (UK) »
I don't suppose Nile Rogers was named after the Battle of the Nile? :D
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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:23 BST (UK) »
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I don't suppose Nile Rogers was named after the Battle of the Nile?
Probably. Maybe his parents were history buffs.
I think the name that has stood the test of time must be Florence named after
Florence Nightingale hero of the Crimean war.
Still in use today.
I've also seen middle names of Mafeking & Verdun.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:32 BST (UK) »
Mafeking - just put the forename of Mafeking into FreeBMD to see rather a large number of births registered in June quarter 1900 - both male and female.  :)
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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:42 BST (UK) »
I have a great aunt with the middle name Mons.

In a similar vein but not a battle or commander but a 2c1r born July 1885 in Hull named Edward Salcha Wray.  His father was a Humber pilot who had been knocked overboard into the Humber in Feb 1885 by the boom of the Norwegian ship Salcha and drowned.  Slightly macabre.

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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:50 BST (UK) »
The Boar war is a good example of how battles and Military men can influence baby names.

The year 1900 saw  nearly  50 children named Mafeking registered in England & Wales, split between the sexes, and some with the additional name Baden after Colonel Robert Baden- Powell. This initial flurry of interest soon  died down, as the following year there were only 2 "Mafeking" births registered .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mafeking

There was a similar pattern to the popularity of Ladysmith as a first name; 24 in 1900 registered in England & Wales, then very few afterwards.
There were too many children called Baden, Baden Powell, Baden Cecil, (after the prime ministers son Lord Edward Cecil) and Baden Kitchener to count.There was a little peak of Kitchener's in 1902, named for Field Marshal Horatio Herbert Kitchener.

The  popularity of Kitchener as a first name rose considerably in 1914 with the start of the Great War, as Kitchener had become Secretary of State for War, but quickly waned followed his death in 1916.Lord Kitchener's father, b. 1805 had the middle name Horatio, presumably named for Admiral Nelson. After all, the battle of Trafalgar took place in October 1805. So the son was named for both his father and Nelson!
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Re: Battles and Commanders names used as forenames
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:57 BST (UK) »
1921 census - 151 instances of Mafeking as a forename.  1911 census - 181.

AND

1901 - 141
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