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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 01:23 BST (UK) »
Sue,
In 1876, the following offspring, Joe Donnelly b. 1839, Jane b. 1843, Frances b. 1850 and Sarah b. 1861 were all living at the time of Timothy Donnelly's death.   Unusual only to have Joe's name on death notices.    Jane b. 1843 married Edwards and moved to NZ initially, Frances b. 1850 m. Crome and Sarah b. 1861 m. Tiffin.

Jan

I'm sure you have read the death notices which I linked for you in my reply#11, following relpy #10 clarifing names and dates.


The only living offspring mentioned is Joseph.  Does this agree with the information on the 1876 DC which you have?

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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 01:30 BST (UK) »
Interesting.

I think there had been disharmony in the marriage of Timothy and Eliza.

Perhaps the other offspring were not particularly fond of father.
1867
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13221263

1869
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13193981

1870
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13221263
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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 01:56 BST (UK) »
When daughter Lucy died in 1856, she was aged 14 months. according to this death notice.  The youngest daughter (Reg 1107/1856)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12985633

However this birth would give a death age of closer to 5 years. ???

DONNELLY Lucy
964/1851 V1851964 37A
Parents TIMOTHY & ELIZA
NF


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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 03:07 BST (UK) »
Okay, so now I think the newspaper information is incorrect, wrong name, should have been Louisa who was born 1855 and the death in 1856 would match up.

So need to go back to Lucy now b. 1851, more sleuthing.

Jan

When daughter Lucy died in 1856, she was aged 14 months. according to this death notice.  The youngest daughter (Reg 1107/1856)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12985633

However this birth would give a death age of closer to 5 years. ???

DONNELLY Lucy
964/1851 V1851964 37A
Parents TIMOTHY & ELIZA
NF


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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir


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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 03:38 BST (UK) »
Death

DONELLY Lucy
19/1851 V185119 37B
INFANT
At NU
 

NU == Church of England Willoughby

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 03:43 BST (UK) »
Sue,
Thank you, that solves Lucy now.  Obviously a misprint in the SMH.
Now to get more information on George Donnelly, he died at Duke Street, Balmain aged 23 years, but haven't found any newspaper records yet.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 04:01 BST (UK) »
Now to get more information on George Donnelly, he died at Duke Street, Balmain aged 23 years, but haven't found any newspaper records yet.

George  DONELLY  d. 25 Dec 1868 Balmain, NSW.
Parents: Timothy and Eliza
1697/1868

He was buried at Balmain Cemetery which is now the Pioneers Memorial Park.

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 04:42 BST (UK) »
Merlin,
Thanks for that information, we did get that previously regarding George Donnelly, seems he was at Tarban Creek Asylum in 1866 aged 17 years.   We can assume that he must have been released from there, as he died at Duke Street, Balmain, which I think was business premises.

Just wondered what happened, was there an accident, still looking through papers.   Maybe someone else might come up with answers.

Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 04:57 BST (UK) »


I think this marriage is for a daughter of the family.

698/1859 BRISCOE George
DONNELLY Mary
SYDNEY

It looks to me as the surname BRISCOE is what is intended here in a death notice for Eliza in 1900.
Printed as BRISCOF

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14232625

It looks like T. (Timothy?) DONNELLY was selling the home of George. August 1867. Perhaps George had been admitted to the asylum or no longer living there.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13153817

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