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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 April 24 02:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Janjim,
Your other thread
 https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=881756.0

is giving some information from you which differs from this opening post.

It says that Simon DONELLY married Winifred at Hog Island .

Their son Timothy m. Eliza SCALES Hog Island.

Their children were Mary and Joseph.
 
Timothy, Eliza and 2 children came to NSW in 1840. More children were born here.

I wonder if there is a confusion of names in your information
Sue
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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 April 24 02:47 BST (UK) »
Here is the death of Timothy who arrived in NSW in 1840

DONNELLY Timothy
Father Simon
Mother Winifred
At SYDNEY
1876/335

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 April 24 02:53 BST (UK) »
Here is the death of Timothy who arrived in NSW in 1840

DONNELLY Timothy
Father Simon
Mother Winifred
At SYDNEY
1876/335

Sue

Two death notices
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13363574?searchTerm=%22donnelly%22

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 April 24 08:43 BST (UK) »
I see no mention of the forename "Simon" in any of the records - the couple coming to Australia appear to be Timothy and Eliza, although his name in the handwritten immigration record could be mistaken as Simon.
They are shown in the
New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists,
July, 1840
per ship Premier
All from County Clare
Timothy Donnelly, 30, farm labourer, protestant, cannot read or write, from County Clare
Eliza Donnelly, 26, housekeeper, protestant, reads
Joseph, 1 1/4
Mary, 3

Eliza's funeral notices in The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW), Fri 12 Jan 1900 
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/237155253

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 April 24 12:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Have a look at the Rookwood Cemetery search

https://rookwoodcemetery.discovereverafter.com/profile/26428952

Eliza is buried with Joseph who died December 1917. a number of articles in Trove regarding Joseph's death

this is one link
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167285219?searchTerm=joseph%20donnelly

Cass
PS
just found a lovelly photo of Joe   
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/263732952?searchTerm=donnelly%20boat%20builder

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 April 24 23:03 BST (UK) »
Oh my goodness, how sad, thank you all for this information.  Also I do apologise for not answering sooner, for some reason or other these messages before did not pop up on my email messages. Very strange.   I will look further into this now.   Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 April 24 23:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith,
My apologies, yes a mistake in my opening post, that should have been Timothy Donnelly, not Simon.   Timothy Donnelly's father was Simon Donnelly.

Jan

What a sad and distressing story to be reported publicly in the newspaper, with the additional mention of the brother.
So it seems likely that the 1869 death is the correct one, although the father’s name doesn’t match that given by the OP.

Judith
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 00:42 BST (UK) »
wivenhoe,
So Sorry I made a mistake re the posting, should have been Timothy Donnelly, not Simon Donnelly.
Also we do have death certificate for Timothy Donnelly when he died in 1876.  Registered are two sons dead and two daughters as well.  They were William Donnelly, George Donnelly d. 1868, Lucy d. 1856 aged 4 years and Louisa Donnelly.   We cannot find a death for Louisa Donnelly.

Would really appreciate it if anyone could find more information on the deaths of Lucy and Louisa Donnelly.



Jan

The death certificates for Timothy DONNELLY and wife Eliza, when and where did they die and - how are their children accounted for  eg  alive, deceased?

Can you confirm please...the missing William is son of Timothy DONNELLY and Eliza SCALES?


The children born in Sydney have parents Timothy DONNELLY ......and Eliza SCALES, and Timothy is son of Simon?
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 01:12 BST (UK) »
I'm sure you have read the death notices which I linked for you in my reply#11, following relpy #10 clarifing names and dates.


The only living offspring mentioned is Joseph.  Does this agree with the information on the 1876 DC which you have?

Sue
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