Parent's name left off death cert

[Neale1961]

It is likely that the information (regarding her parents) on Susan Wade's death certificate is not correct.
Clearly her husband either did not know, or was not able to remember correctly.
It is often the case that death certificates hold inaccurate information, as it was reliant on somebody's knowledge or memory.

Considering that Susan had a daughter named Catherine, it is quite probable that she was named after Susan's mother.

[Neale1961]

The baptism for the 2 Arnott girls are available on Scotlands People in the Roman Catholic Register

ARNOTT   ELIZABETH   
parents - DAVID ARNOTT / SUSAN WADE   
FEMALE   born 14/8/1849   
baptised  27/8/1849   GLASGOW, ST ANDREW'S   


ARNOTT   CATHARINE ANNE   
parents - DAVID ARNOTT / SUSAN WAIDE   
FEMALE   born 19/3/1855   
baptised 21/3/1855   GLASGOW, ST MARY'S   

Catholic baptism records can sometimes hold useful information about godparents, etc.
Have you looked at these records?

You will see there is a gap between Elizabeth in 1849 and Catherine in 1855, where another child may have been born. Perhaps this was the other daughter – maybe she died before being baptised.

I could not see a Catholic burial for another child.
Nor could I see a burial for Susan Wade's parents.

[Davy MacLean]

Thanks again Neale, really appreciate your help on this

[Neale1961]

David Arnott married again in 1870 to Jessie STEWART.
He was a widower, age 43, Tobacco Pipe Maker, 99 Gallow gate Glasgow
His parents were Alexander ARNOT (Rope spinner, deceased) and Elizabeth SHANNON

Using traditional naming patterns, David’s first daughter was named Elizabeth, after his mother,
and his second daughter was named Catherine, after Susan’s mother.

[Neale1961]

Regarding David Arnott’s parents – here there  are in the census. (click on links to open)
In 1851 Glasgow (Arnott seen as Arnold)
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a150541f4040b9d6e0f88b5/alexander-arnold-1851-lanarkshire-glasgow-1790-?locale=en
(The 3 Dewar children belong to Mary)

In 1841 the family are in the Saltmarket, Glasgow
(Elizabeth Shannon seen as Bessie Shaman, and again Arnott seen as Arnold)
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14ef5ff4040b9d6ef709f7/alexr-arnold-1841-lanarkshire-glasgow-1835-?locale=en

So that is quite a large family, 5 siblings to your David, for you to track down now!


This is the death for Elizabeth (Shannon) Arnott in 1872 (mother’s name Heenan)
SHANNON   ELIZABETH   60   mother - HEENAN   
F   1872   644 / 10 / 877   HUTCHESONTOWN   

ARNOTT   ELIZABETH   60   mother - HEENAN   
F   1872   644 / 10 / 877   HUTCHESONTOWN   



Not so sure about a death for Alexander Arnot.
There is this one (without an age) but in the right area. Might be worth a try?
ARNOT   ALEXANDER      mother - DRUMMOND   
M   1862   644 / 10 / 1146   HUTCHESONTOWN

[Neale1961]

There are some possible baptisms for children of Alexander and Elizabeth ARNOLD all in Downpatrick, County Down. They match pretty well with names and ages on the Scotland census, but mother’s maiden name is not given, so can’t be certain.
These can be found on FamilySearch:-
•   Margaret Arnold 1820
•   Mary Arnold 14 Jan 1822
•   John Arnold 22 Feb 1826
•   Henry David Arnold 30 Sept 1827 (Is this your David?)

-------------

From Scotland's People

•   John Arnott; married Margaret McGregor in 1864 Blythswood; John died 16 Feb 1899 Dunoon; age 69; mother – Shannon
•   Mary (Dewar) Arnott; age 71; died 1892 Hutchesontown;  mother – Shannon
•   Elizabeth Arnott; married Henry McQuillan in 1846 Glasgow. Elizabeth (McQuillan) Arnott; age 56; died 1890 St Rollox; mother – Shannon

[Davy MacLean]

Wow, Thanks again Neale, you've got a better skill than me finding this info out, been hitting a brick wall with it for a few years now. Can see why I'm having difficulty in tracking family down, Totally diffent name given as mother on death cert (Helen something) I had his mother as Elizabeth but surname as Lithgow

Interesting to see the name change which will explain why I was struggling to find them but wonder why they have changed it? I know that many Irish anglicized their names, But wouldn't have thought Arnold was particularly Irish sounding to change to Arnott?

[Neale1961]

On David’s marriage certificate, his mother’s name is clearly Elizabeth Shannon. This is the most reliable document, because the information came directly from David.

The information on his death certificate is from his stepson, and the information about mother is not correct. There is no reason that his stepson would know the correct details.

[Davy MacLean]

Did wonder that, Are you any good at looking at Irish records by any chance?

You were right about Elizabeth Shannon, but the Alexander Arnot one isn't the person, no year given as it's a young baby that's died before reaching his 1st birthday