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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #27 on: Monday 08 April 24 20:37 BST (UK) »
Of the 4 children, Only Elizabeth made it into adulthood, Cathrine died 2 weeks old. Sara 8mths old



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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #28 on: Monday 08 April 24 22:46 BST (UK) »

Of the 4 children, Only Elizabeth made it into adulthood, Cathrine died 2 weeks old. Sara 8mths old

Surely 2 children made it to adulthood - Elizabeth and David.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #29 on: Monday 08 April 24 23:21 BST (UK) »
From death cert of ELizabeth (Shannon) Arnott ....
Elizabeth's parents were David SHANNON and Prudentia HEENAN
Not sure what it says for occupation of David Shannon (deceased)
"Egg dealer" ?? seems a bit odd ;D


Child of Alexander Arnott and Elizabeth (nee Shanon)
Prudentia Arnott Burial Feb 1851 Glasgow  (named after her grandmother Pudentia Heenan)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/244708610/prudentia-arnott
( I don't think the age is quite right, as on the census she is younger than brother David )

I was surprised not to find other members of the same Arnott family interred in the same place
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #30 on: Monday 08 April 24 23:33 BST (UK) »
Aye she's buried in the Southern Necropolis, Pretty sure in the past I found a lair doc and it had been paid for by David Arnot,

Egg dealer is a new one on me, Not the strangest occupation in the family tree, That one's a hole borer, So not sure if a posh name for a tunnelling/trench cutting labourer or to do with drilling holes in metal/forming holes in metal tubes?


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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 00:06 BST (UK) »
You could put a snip on the hand writing board to see if anyone comes up with something more likely than egg dealer.

Also, previously, I discovered there are Catholic burials on FindMyPast, that are not indexed anywhere on ScotlandsPeople. If you know someone with a sub to FindMyPast you could ask them to check for a Catholic burial for Alexander Arnott/ Arnold, sometime between 1851 and 1870. It is a shame we cannot find a death for him.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 06:43 BST (UK) »
One way of trying to find Alexander Arnott’s death (or at least to narrow it down) is to look at the marriage records of his children,
We know when his son David Arnott married in 1870, his father was deceased.
His son John Arnott; married Margaret McGregor in 1864 Blythswood. What does the record give about his father?
His youngest son Alexander married in 1855 – Does this marriage record say his father was alive or dead?
We know he was alive in the 1851 census.


Here is some information about his youngest son: -
Alexander Arnott (junior) married Catherine Austin in 1855 Calton Glasgow
Children:-
•   Prudentia - born 1855 Glasgow
•   Catherine - born 1856 – died 1857 Glasgow
•   Alexander - born 1857 Glasgow
•   Elizabeth - born 1860 St Giles
•   John W  - born 16 Jan 1862 Farnham / Aldershot, England
•   David – born 20 Dec 1863 Dover, England
•   Mary Ann - born 1867 Gibraltar
•   James - born 1870 New Brunswick, Canada

1861 census Alexander is with his family in Greenlaw / Glencorse Barracks, Midlothian (part of a detachment of 78th Regiment of Foot / Highlanders )

The regiment embarked for Gibraltar in 1865, and then in May 1869 sailed on the HMS Crocodile troopship to Nova Scotia, arriving on 14 May 1869.

Private Alexander Arnott was discharged from the 78th regiment in April 1871 (There are service / pension records for him on Ancestry Fold 3)

1871 census in New Brunswick Canada. Alexander (36) is a Tobacco Pipe Make.
Wife and all his children with him.

In late 1871 / early 1872 the family moved to Boston Massachusetts. Many of his children were married there.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 09:07 BST (UK) »
Have you considered checking this death in case there has been a transcription error:

ARNEIL
ALEX
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56
M
23/03/1853
644 / 1
580 / 90
GLASGOW


Ignore, just realised you are looking for an RC death. This one is CofS.
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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 17:39 BST (UK) »
Neale,

Fantastic, I wondered how I had a lot of DNA matches in that area of North America, this explains it!

I've filtered down some of the years previously and drawn a blank, I have a similar issue with another ancestor, The only thing I can think of is that they have died elsewhere in the UK possibly back home in Ireland

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Re: Parent's name left off death cert
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 18:21 BST (UK) »
Did find A younger Prue's obit in Boston,

Neale,

Have you any better luck looking for Francis McAllister or Margaret Lithgow? The Regt assocation has no records of him and I've tried other sites but no joy.