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Offline morris.merryweather

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Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« on: Monday 08 April 24 05:57 BST (UK) »
From familysearch I can see a transcribed entry which appears to only give partial information:
John Blackham, single, 30, son of John Blackham, married 15 Dec 1881 at Duffield to Eliza Ball, single, 20.
I'd like to know if the actual record shows:
- John's occupation?
- the occupation of John's father?
- address given for John or Eliza?
- name given for father of Eliza Ball?
- names of marriage witnesses?
- confirmation that John is shown as a bachelor?
Thank you.

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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 April 24 06:04 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast transcription has
John Blackham age 30    his father John Blackham
Eliza Ball age 20   no father listed for Eliza.

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Ancestry has the image
John Blackham is a Nailer and so is his father.
There is no father for Eliza Ball
Witnesses are John Blackham made his mark and Sarah Blackham signed
Bride and Groom also made their mark.

Bride and Groom are  bachelor and spinster

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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 April 24 06:13 BST (UK) »
The 1881 census shows one John BLACKHAM aged 29 , a nail maker as head of household with his wife Mary aged 34.
They are at Field Lane Belper.  He states born Belper.

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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 April 24 07:43 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has the image
John Blackham is a Nailer and so is his father.
There is no father for Eliza Ball
Witnesses are John Blackham made his mark and Sarah Blackham signed
Bride and Groom also made their mark.

Bride and Groom are  bachelor and spinster

Thanks!


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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 April 24 11:37 BST (UK) »
1861 in Belper we have;
John Blackham 38 Head Nail Maker born Belper
Fanny Blackham 39 Wife
Thomas Blackham 14 Son Nail Maker
Mary Ann Blackham 11 Daughter
John Blackham   9 Son Nail Maker
William Blackham 5 Son
Joseph Blackham 2 Son

Sorry making dinner so will post more later if needed :)
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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 April 24 11:45 BST (UK) »
Marriage of John Blackham, Nailer, Father John a Nailer, 21 Oct 1873 is on FreeREG to Mary Ann MELLOR
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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 April 24 12:22 BST (UK) »
1861 in Belper we have;
John Blackham 38 Head Nail Maker born Belper
Fanny Blackham 39 Wife
Thomas Blackham 14 Son Nail Maker
Mary Ann Blackham 11 Daughter
John Blackham   9 Son Nail Maker
William Blackham 5 Son
Joseph Blackham 2 Son

Sorry making dinner so will post more later if needed :)

Marriage of John Blackham, Nailer, Father John a Nailer, 21 Oct 1873 is on FreeREG to Mary Ann MELLOR

So would be the right age for the 1881 census (cited above)  with wife of the right first name.

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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 22:20 BST (UK) »
Hi,
John Blackham = Eliza Ball 1881 Duffield Eliza states she is aged 20.

John Blackham dies March Q1891 Belper Reg.7b 358

1891 Census Belper RG12/2743 folio 99

Eliza Blackham   26  widow Stocking Embroiderer  born Swanwick, derbys
John W                8
Lily                     6
Arthur                 4
Albert                  2
Lucy           9 months

A person who embroidered stockings, known in belper as "A Cheviner"
Eliza said she was 20 when she married, but suggest she was only 16
Her birth Dec Q 1865 Belper 7b 444   (Swanwick is in Belper Registration District)

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Re: Duffield marriage 1881 lookup request
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi
Further information re Eliza Blackham nee Ball.

She marries again 27th December 1893 Christ Church Belper

Eliza Blackham  29 Widow   Cheviner  Christ Church  Illegitimate
Joseph Blackham  40 Widower Fettler  Masborough    Joseph Blackham   Nailer

In 1901 they are at 103 Midland Road, Rotherham
RG 13/4396 folio 116

Joseph Blackham 48 Head             Dudley, Staffs
Eliza Blackham    38 Wife              Swanwick  Derbys
Arthur Blackham 14 Son                Belper,  Debrys
Annie Blackham    6 Daughter        Alfreton, Derbys
Joseph Blackham   4 Son               Blackwell,Derbys

Wonder what relation second husband is to the original Ambrose Blackham


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