1850/1 Archibald Morrison Bap/Bir

[Forfarian]

You know that James Morrison was alive in 1861, and dead by 1871.

He said in 1851 that he was 42, and in 1861 that he was 49. so he was born some time between about 1810 and 1820.

There are five deaths of James Morrisons, born 1815 plus or minus 5 years,  in Glasgow between 1861 and 1871. See screenshot.

The census index at SP shows that in 1851, 1861 and 1871 the family was in Central District 644/1. So the chances are that your James is one of the three who died in Central.

Checking the mothers' maiden surnames against the old parish registers, there is a baptism of James Morrison to Archibald Morrison and Anne MacCallum in Glassary in 1810.

I couldn't resist having a look and bingo! James Morrison, married to Mary Morrison, parents  Archibald Morrison, weaver, and Agnes McCallum, died at 12 Weaver Street, Glasgow on 15 July 1868. (The names Agnes and Anne can be interchangeable.)

This couple were married in Glassary in 1803 and had 8 children baptised in Glassary between 1802 and 1827. See screenshot.

In the 1841 census, in Glassary, are a family consisting of Archd, 51, weaver, Ann, 60 and Ann, 19. These look rather like your Archibald and Ann(e)/Agnes. See screenshot.

In 1851 Ann is a widow, aged 60, with daughter Ann, 24 and two young grandchildren. They're not there in 1861.

So that gets you back another generation, and provides lots of scope for exploring lateral lines.

[Lensmeister]

Hi Forfarian,

Thanks very much for this.

The James you mention is Archibald's father WOW thank you

I've just got home from a long drive so my brain is a little frazzled (the M25 is a nightmare this afternoon).

I'll be having a close look tomorrow when we get home from the shopping.

Thanks you so much. I will have a glass of Glengoyne 18 year old single Malt in your honour

[ruthhelen]

The names Agnes and Anne can be interchangeable.

As an aside, on the interchangeability of Agnes and Ann, I had a friend years ago, who was of French descent (living in Scotland) - she was called Agnès, pronounced, by her at least, An-yes - so you can see quite easily how Agnes and Ann can be variants of the same name...

Ruth

[Forfarian]

I thought the M25 was always a nightmare at all times?

Glad to see you'll be drinking a decent malt Slàinte mhàth!

[Lensmeister]

As an aside, on the interchangeability of Agnes and Ann, I had a friend years ago, who was of French descent (living in Scotland) - she was called Agnès, pronounced, by her at least, An-yes - so you can see quite easily how Agnes and Ann can be variants of the same name...

Ruth

Thanks. That explains one of the wife's English side and the confusion over one person.

I thought the M25 was always a nightmare at all times?

Glad to see you'll be drinking a decent malt Slàinte mhàth!

Generally the M25 is pretty crap but I managed to escape it. Today approaching the Dartford Bridge it was bad.

I still have a bottle of Glen Ord (My favourite single malt) but I try never to open it.

Shopping soon.

[Lensmeister]

You know that James Morrison was alive in 1861, and dead by 1871.

He said in 1851 that he was 42, and in 1861 that he was 49. so he was born some time between about 1810 and 1820.

There are five deaths of James Morrisons, born 1815 plus or minus 5 years,  in Glasgow between 1861 and 1871. See screenshot.

The census index at SP shows that in 1851, 1861 and 1871 the family was in Central District 644/1. So the chances are that your James is one of the three who died in Central.

Checking the mothers' maiden surnames against the old parish registers, there is a baptism of James Morrison to Archibald Morrison and Anne MacCallum in Glassary in 1810.

I couldn't resist having a look and bingo! James Morrison, married to Mary Morrison, parents  Archibald Morrison, weaver, and Agnes McCallum, died at 12 Weaver Street, Glasgow on 15 July 1868. (The names Agnes and Anne can be interchangeable.)

This couple were married in Glassary in 1803 and had 8 children baptised in Glassary between 1802 and 1827. See screenshot.

In the 1841 census, in Glassary, are a family consisting of Archd, 51, weaver, Ann, 60 and Ann, 19. These look rather like your Archibald and Ann(e)/Agnes. See screenshot.

In 1851 Ann is a widow, aged 60, with daughter Ann, 24 and two young grandchildren. They're not there in 1861.

So that gets you back another generation, and provides lots of scope for exploring lateral lines.

I've been through all of this slowly and added things to the Family Tree Maker.

Just plain WOW

Thank you very very much.

I've done searches to get these myself and saved them.
When payday comes next Friday I'll be buying some more credits and be able to save them and put them on FTM.

Once I get the Marriage of Archibald and Anne I'll may be able to find their parents from it.

Thanks Forfarian.

[Forfarian]

Once I get the Marriage of Archibald and Anne I'll may be able to find their parents from it.

I'm afraid that that is extremely unlikely - it is rare for pre-1855 church records to name the couple's parents in a marriage record.

Thanks Forfarian.

You're welcome.