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Offline Neale1961

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 11 April 24 07:04 BST (UK) »
That looks good Cas.
I wonder what happened between the birth of daughter Matilda in 1867, and the son Robert (to second wife) in 1875.

I have made no progress in finding Selina / Louisa Maisey / Snell at any point.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 11 April 24 07:10 BST (UK) »
Eliza Moreton looks to be unmarried in the 1871 census, but living 2 doors away were members of the Mays family from Yarmouth.  (William age 17, James Massey's son, and James' widow, Eliza)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 11 April 24 07:13 BST (UK) »
Think there may have been another son John, the name Snell does not seem to be that common in area.

MAY, JOHN    mmn   SNELL 
GRO Reference: 1865  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 109

Death - MAY'S, JOHN       0 
GRO Reference: 1865  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 69

Maybe some of the other children birth/death certs may help trace or give more info?

Cas

Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:12 BST (UK) »
Census:   1861
County:   Warwickshire (WAR)
District:   St Paul
Civil Parish:   Birmingham
Ecclesiastical Parish:   
Piece:   2151
Enumeration District:   6
Folio:   110
Page:   23
Schedule:   121
House Number:   3
House or Street Name:   Hse 41 Crt Livery St

MEZSEY   Thomas   Head      23   Fish Monger   born Norfolk   Yarmouth      
MEZSEY   Louisa   Wife      20      born Warwickshire   Birmingham      
(On Ancestry it is transcribed as MEZEY)

 - Note the address is Livery Street – same as on marriage certificate.
 - Thomas is a fishmonger – agrees with marriage information, and info on child’s birth.
 - Ages would agree with Louisa / Sebrina being under age when she married in 1860.


Thomas MASSEY baptism 3 Jul 1837 Great Yarmouth
Parents Robert and Margaret (shoemaker)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/64ba8847f493fdfaa756ea0f/thomas-maisey-baptism-norfolk-great-yarmouth-1837-07-03?locale=en


1851 census Thomas MAISEY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDJ-ZWS

Father Robert is a shoemaker – this agrees with information on Thomas' marriage record.

1841 census for Maisey Family
This transcription is missing some children (page turns)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDJ-Z71

Thank you for this.  So if this is this Mayes who married Sabina, he’s already married to Louisa? 


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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:13 BST (UK) »
Info for the Gem Street industrial School is not available at the NA. Contact details for minutes, admission registers etc on link. I also think there is a possibility that Eliza age 8 given in 1871 is there.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13774245

May get info on parentage

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:16 BST (UK) »
Births registered for children on Thomas and Louisa? / Sebrina?

MAISEY, ELIZA       Mother - SNELL 
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 128

MAZEY, ROBERT       Mother - SNELL 
GRO Reference: 1863  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 162
(DEATH --- MAZEY, ROBERT       age - 0 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 110)

MASEY, MATILDA       Mother - SNEATH 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 131

This is great thank you.  So do you think on the birth certificate sneath is a transcription error and should have been snell? And regarding the spelling of Thomas Mayes? Masey, Mazey or Maizey?

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:16 BST (UK) »
Vixen999
Please just use the reply button. Quoting large sections of text which have previously been posted and read, makes the whole thread confusing and difficult to follow.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:25 BST (UK) »
Neale1961
so the I in 1841 is really an S  the ink is faded.

Isn't there a Leath in County Kerry Ireland.
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Robert Mazey was buried 10 March 1864 age 63 Great Yarmouth -Workhouse
Margaret Maise death recorded 1863 age 70  Great Yarmouth

Son James was in the workhouse 1881. If the OP can get the information from the interviews to establish residency it could answer questions

OP?? Sorry if being thick

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Re: matilda mayes/masey
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 11 April 24 08:30 BST (UK) »

AMENDED Robert has born Ireland, not Norfolk, 1851 says born Leath.

I think Robert was born in Leith (Edinburgh) Scotland. See 1851 census.
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Thomas Maisey’s brother, James Maisey, born 1822 Great Yarmouth, was also living in Birmingham and working as a fish monger.

Do you have a census link for James? Thanks