Explanation of BMD entry.

[arthurk]

There is a 1945 St Asaph entry for * * Jones mmn Parry but it is September quarter.
If you look at image it is See S45

I agree with this - compare the letter before 45 with St Asaph and See.

Either way I don't think this has anything to do with the OP's person born in 1945, who since they are still alive, can probably confirm when they were  born!

This is probably also correct. The 1945 entry we've been looking at is the registration of a birth that took place in 1929, so if the person of interest was definitely born in 1945, it can't be them.

[AntonyMMM]

Almost certainly it is a straightforward, and very common, re-registration, probably done after the later marriage of the parents (under the Legitimacy Act 1926).

Birth is originally indexed as Edward L PARRY in 1929 (11b p425), then was re-registered in Q3 1945 and indexed as JONES (11b p202), with a handwritten entry added to the appropriate 1929 index page (for JONES) referring to the re-registration in S 45 ( i.e. the Sep Quarter of 1945).

The S in the handwritten entry (for S 45) has been mis-transcribed on FreeBMD as a D.

[mckha489]

This entry is in the DEC quarter 1945

JONES   E. B.    Jones    St.Asaph    11b   209. …that’s the one with the notes on FreeBMD


And this entry is in the SEP quarter 1945

Jones    Edward L    Parry    St.Asaph    11b   202

So are you saying the notes should be on the September entry?

[AntonyMMM]

So are you saying the notes should be on the September entry?

Looks like it ....

One of the problems with FreeBMD is that there appears to be no understanding of (or the transcribers aren't told about) birth re-registrations, and they are generally just noted as being "late" which they very rarely actually are.

[mckha489]

There is a death in NZ


Registration Number   Family Name   Given Name(s)   Date of Birth/
Age at Death   
1986/44783   Jones   Edward Lynch   1 January 1929

[BumbleB]

As a FreeBMD transcriber - our instructions are to enter what we see.  We are not asked to interpret entries.

[AntonyMMM]

As a FreeBMD transcriber - our instructions are to enter what we see.  We are not asked to interpret entries.

Which of course is correct, and as it should be, and I meant no criticism of the transcribers who have worked so hard to give us such a fantastic resource....the real issue is with the help/explanation that FreeBMD shows.

[BumbleB]

Fine - point taken. 

[BumbleB]

Not sure whether this has been noticed on the "Entry Information" related to this particular 1929 query -

Possible late entry
Normally GRO Index page numbers are numeric, optionally followed by a letter. As this page number ('See D45') does not follow this format it is possible that it is a Late Entry. Late Entries mean that the registration of the event was delayed, e.g. parents did not attend the Register Office to record a birth but the birth was registered much later when the child was about to begin work, or an Inquest after a death prevented the immediate issuing of a death certificate. A Late Entry attempts to show a searcher where to look for the actual GRO reference. Unfortunately the format of such Late Entries is not standardised, but the usual pattern is a letter showing the Quarter of the Registration [March (M), June (J), September (S) or December (D)] followed by the last two digits of the year, thus giving the quarter and year when the Registration was entered into the GRO records. A reference that reads 'see J/75' would therefore indicate that the GRO registration and reference is probably to be found in the June Quarter of either 1875 or 1975 (depending on context).