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Old Scottish Handwriting - need help deciphering two words, please
« on: Tuesday 16 April 24 22:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Rootschatters,

I have a 1678 Testament Dative and Inventory nearly fully figured out.  But, there are two words in relation to one item in the Inventory that have me stumped.  Any assistance is greatly appreciated in solving this little mystery.  I have highlighted the two words in yellow.  The remainder of the item is, as I make it:

Item ....... Estimat worth xx s. the peice overheid Inde .... lib.

Thank you
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DVN-Bickle.Doble.Harris.Hill.Nrthcte
KEN-Austen.Bodeker.Collard.Dodd.Duncan.Eaton.Gregry.Hammnd.Herman.Hills.Hodgs.Ivysn.
James.Kemp.Milstd.Nut.Owlet.Ruck.Spilet.Terry.Tilby.Thmsn.Walker
SOM-Baker.Clatworthy.Linton.Parker.Smith.Stone.Twose
ABD-Barclay.Cruickshank.McKenzie.Shepherd.Club
LKS-Douglas.Gunn.Turner
MLN-Dicks/Dickson.Duff.Lindsay.Young
SHI-Bain.Cluness.Fordyce.Gray.Petrie
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Re: Old Scottish Handwriting - need help deciphering two words, please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 April 24 08:25 BST (UK) »
Could the first word be "myne" - 'Item myne Estimation'.

The second word could be an amount in shillings maybe? "Inde" means hence, so it would be a total.
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Re: Old Scottish Handwriting - need help deciphering two words, please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 April 24 15:40 BST (UK) »
Thought the first highlight may be wyne.
Is the second highlight the roman numeral ix? ie 9
Ray

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Re: Old Scottish Handwriting - need help deciphering two words, please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 April 24 16:06 BST (UK) »
Hi, sunnylew and Raybistre

Thank you for taking the time to look at this mystery item.  Wyne could be the first highlighted word.  I had swyne but couldn't quite get the s and the w to work properly in this context.

I should have said in my first post that the total inventory is GB90.  The inventory that I can read totals GB75.  So, this item would have to equal GB15.  So, the thought of 20 shillings x 9 of anything doesn't meet the required GB15.

Any further thoughts?
CRN-Hocking
DVN-Bickle.Doble.Harris.Hill.Nrthcte
KEN-Austen.Bodeker.Collard.Dodd.Duncan.Eaton.Gregry.Hammnd.Herman.Hills.Hodgs.Ivysn.
James.Kemp.Milstd.Nut.Owlet.Ruck.Spilet.Terry.Tilby.Thmsn.Walker
SOM-Baker.Clatworthy.Linton.Parker.Smith.Stone.Twose
ABD-Barclay.Cruickshank.McKenzie.Shepherd.Club
LKS-Douglas.Gunn.Turner
MLN-Dicks/Dickson.Duff.Lindsay.Young
SHI-Bain.Cluness.Fordyce.Gray.Petrie
ASSISTANCE PROVIDED HERE IS FROM MY OWN DIRECT EXPERIENCE & NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS LEGAL ADVICE


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Re: Old Scottish Handwriting - need help deciphering two words, please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 April 24 23:21 BST (UK) »
Hi, Raybistre,

I have now recalculated the total inventory minus the mystery line - for the 6th time!  This time it adds up to 81 pounds.  Hallelujah!  Your call of the amount being ix pounds is absolutely correct.  I can't believe how many times I've added this inventory up to find different amounts each time.

Thank you.
CRN-Hocking
DVN-Bickle.Doble.Harris.Hill.Nrthcte
KEN-Austen.Bodeker.Collard.Dodd.Duncan.Eaton.Gregry.Hammnd.Herman.Hills.Hodgs.Ivysn.
James.Kemp.Milstd.Nut.Owlet.Ruck.Spilet.Terry.Tilby.Thmsn.Walker
SOM-Baker.Clatworthy.Linton.Parker.Smith.Stone.Twose
ABD-Barclay.Cruickshank.McKenzie.Shepherd.Club
LKS-Douglas.Gunn.Turner
MLN-Dicks/Dickson.Duff.Lindsay.Young
SHI-Bain.Cluness.Fordyce.Gray.Petrie
ASSISTANCE PROVIDED HERE IS FROM MY OWN DIRECT EXPERIENCE & NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS LEGAL ADVICE

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Re: Old Scottish Handwriting - need help deciphering two words, please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 April 24 00:30 BST (UK) »
I suspect that the mystery word is nyne = nine. Nine at 20/- gives a total of £9, so the arithmetic is right. You would expect a number here (compare "ane stirk" in the line above). I think the clerk wrote nyne and forgot to say what there were nine of! They will be animals because it says overheid (= a head).