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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 18 April 24 00:11 BST (UK) »
And Mary Ann Administered Edwards

Edwd Cohen
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Grant year 1835
Archive reference IR27/44
Event year 1835
Record set Index To Death Duty Registers 1796-1903
Court Canterbury Prerogative Court
Residence 1 Tewkes Buildings

But it looks more like Fowkes Buildings

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2612181

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 18 April 24 10:36 BST (UK) »
Brilliant thank you! I'll definitely order the death duty records for both Edward and Mary Ann. Maybe it will give clues about the properties they owned, including the Saffron Walden farm and perhaps another in Harmondsworth.

Otherwise it is quite bizarre that Edward was baptised there at Harmondsworth (I'll try to see the register entry) in Oct 1835 in spite of presumably claiming at his marriage and at all his children's baptisms and his Freedom of the City of London acceptance that he was christian. Maybe he somehow 'foresaw' his approaching death - he died nearly exactly one month after his baptism.

His brother Judah also died suddenly at the age of 52 in 1834, and brother Godfrey (yet to find his death info but maybe like Judah he may have been buried at Bury St the Jewish cemetery) at the age of 55.

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 18 April 24 10:43 BST (UK) »
Essex Monumental Inscriptions

Headstone. Limestone, east, with traces of black in the lettering.
Sacred to the memory of EDWARD COHEN Esq / Merchant of the City of London
Died November 9. 1835 / aged 50 years

I will also take a trip to the church to hopefully see the headstone (does the entry indicate whether it's inside or outside the church) - wonderful - and that will also answer the question as to whether Mary Ann is there too, but it seems doubtful.

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 20 April 24 13:46 BST (UK) »
I have ordered the death duty for both Mary Ann and Edward (which sadly takes weeks and that's assuming I've done it correctly).

Meanwhile... more info on Edward and his sudden death at the seemingly mysterious location of Saffron Walden. So it turns out that Mary Ann's father Phineas Borrett invested in properties in Essex, including farms that his grandson Thomas Calvert Girtin then owned, also in Radwinter where Edward's farm was (Girtin painted some of them too, Turver's farm and Pinckney's Farm near/at Radwinter). I also intriguingly found another farm nearby, Godfrey's Farm, which had that name already in the early 1800s. Could this have belonged to Godfrey Alexander Cohen??? I have tried to find info on Phineas Borrett's death but no luck so far. It would be wonderful to find a will to see who inherited his Essex properties.

I am busily trying to find out more info on Godfrey Alexander. I looked up his death register info, which shows his nephew and present at death George Phillips of Little Alie Street. I don't think he's a nephew on his own side, so perhaps through his wife Frances Cohen (nee Jonas).

An 1853 newspaper article in Australia mentions a George and/or Samuel Phillips of Little Alie Street. But how are they related to Godfrey or Frances? I am pursuing all 3 brothers Judah, Edward and Godfrey Alexander as any of them may lead me to the holy grail of where they came from in Europe. Are the family names of Phillips and Jonas more Dutch than German for example?

Still many questions unanswered!! Huge big thanks for any further help, and I massively appreciate the help I've had so far :)


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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 April 24 17:04 BST (UK) »
I have tried to find info on Phineas Borrett's death but no luck so far.

Is this him? GRO has 1843 death registered in Brentwood.

Greater London Burial Index

Phineas Borratt
Birth year 1762
Age 81
Burial date 22 Jan 1843
Residence Acton

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 20 April 24 17:10 BST (UK) »
ooh brilliant it may well be.. and it might explain why Edward was baptised in Harmondsworth, maybe it was even the same parish, I'll look it up. Thank you!

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 20 April 24 17:15 BST (UK) »
This looks right...

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 20 April 24 17:17 BST (UK) »
Quite a few records for GAC relating to bankruptcy in the early 1800s. You can find mentions of them in the London Gazette.

Just curious -- which Cohen brother is your ancestor?

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Re: Mary Ann Cohen Islington death 1843, which church register?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 20 April 24 17:21 BST (UK) »
Yes they seemed to be bankrupt every 5 minutes and then start again :)

It's actually my neighbour who I am doing the research for, she's a direct descendant of Judah Cohen.

I have just found quite a lot of tantalising info in a book written by Jehanne Wake, who mentioned their father Jacob. I'm trying to get in touch with her too, she seems to have access to fascinating source material, such as Mary Ann being an eccentric who kept cherry stones in her shoes??!