Thomas Lowther's parents 1881

[Rippedflesh69]

Hi, trying to find the parents of Thomas Lowther, born 1874 in Egremont. Died 1916 France.
I only have his son Charles' birth cert. from 1898 which has parents Thomas Lowther born in Egremont and Magdalene Lowther (nee Waters) born in Northumberland.
Thanks in advance for any help.

[CaroleW]

Have you looked for him on the 1881 census?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list?cqs=england+census

Egremont came under Whitehaven RD & there is a birth in the Dec qtr 1875 on freebmd which may be his.  If so his mothers maiden name was Dumagan as per GRO online

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

There is an 1857 marriage on freebmd of Charles Lowther & Susannah Dummigan

There is this 1881 possibility as he named his son Charles

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-2TDH
 

[AlanBoyd]

There are two candidates that I have found, the first is a better fit I think.

Thomas Lowther b 1875
parents Charles Lowther and Susannah Dummingan/Dumagan
1881 census has Thomas jr aged 5 born Egremont

Thomas Lowther 1877
parents Thomas Lowther and Catherine Poland
1881 census has Thomas jnr aged 4 born Cleator Moor

[*Sandra*]

FIND A GRAVE

Private Thomas Lowther 20 September 1875 Egremont (now in Copeland Borough)  - 1 July 1916


Serre Road Cemetery No. 2
Beaumont-Hamel, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France
PLOT XXXIV. O. 12.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56092183/thomas-lowther

Scotland, National War Memorial Index, 1914-1945

Thomas Lowther
Rank   Pte Birth Place   Egremont Cumberland
Death Date   1 Jul 1916 Death Place   France and Flanders
Service Number   23/540 - War   WW1
Military Unit   Northumberland Fusiliers Tyneside Scottish, 23rd Bn
Regiment   The Northumberland Fusiliers (Tyneside Scottish)

https://www.snwm.org/roll-search/

UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947

Pte Thomas Lowther  23/540  23 rd (Tyneside Scottish)  Bn  Northumberland Fusiliers.  1 st July 1916 - Aged 42 years - Husband of Magdalene Lowther. 16 Long Row, Widdrington. Morpeth. Northumberland.

[amondg]

Thomas Lowther married Magdeline Waters  1894 registered Gateshead.

Do you have all the children ?

Magdeline 1895 reg. Gateshead
Susannah 1898 reg. Gateshead
Charles 1898 reg. Newcastle Upon Tyne
*May 1900 reg. Newcastle Upon Tyne. Bap as Elizabeth May 9 December 1900 St James Benwell
                                          Northumberland.  Died 1901
Florence May 1902 reg. Morpeth
Thomas 1903 reg. Gateshead
Eleanor 1905 reg. Gateshead (Ellen)
William 1908 reg. Gateshead
*James 1910   -- died 1910 reg. Gateshead
Hector Whitehead 1915 reg. Morpeth -- died 1966

This tallies with 1911 census married 16 years 9 children 7 living 2 deceased.

[*Sandra*]

1891 Susannah Lowther is married and living with daughter Mary Jane Martin (wrongly transcribed as Lowther on the 1891 census) Also Mary's two children John aged 6 years and Ann aged 4 years.

Susannah Lowther died Whitehaven District September 1897

Lowther    Susannah    58    Whitehaven    10b   393

1891 Charles Lowther is married and living with son James, South Benwell, Benwell, Northumberland.

Charles Lowther   57 Father
James Lowther   24 Son
Mary A Lowther   22 Wife
John Colagan   21 Boarder
Wilfred Lowther   18 Brother.
William Lowther   18 Brother
William Bell   17 Boarder.
Thomas Lowther   15 Brother
Nicholas Lowther   1

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4JLX-SZM

The ancestry transcription for 1901 Thornley Durham shows Charles transcribed as Charles "Towcher" aged 68 years born Cockermouth living with his son William "Towcher" and family.

William Towcher   36 born Cumberland.
Ann Towcher   35
Ernest S Towcher 4
Susannah Towcher   1
Charles Towcher   68 born Cockermouth

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSC1-QTQ

There is a death registered June 1904 which would need checked but could be Charles Lowther.

Deaths Jun 1904 

Lowther    Charles    73    Kendal    10b   473

[*Sandra*]

1871 Church Street. Egremont. Cumberland

Charles Lowther   36 born Cockermouth. Hawker.  Blind.
Sushannah Lowther   33 born Ireland.
Sarah Ann Lowther   14 born Hensingham. Worker in factory.
Charles Lowther   11 born Egremont.
Mary Jane Lowther   9 born Egremont.
William Lowther   6 born Egremont.
James Lowther   3 born Lowside. Braystones.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-L7Q

1861 (ancestry transcription) East Side Road. Hensingham.

Charles Lawther   27 born Cockermouth.
Susannah Lawther   26 born Ireland.
Sarah A Lawther   4 born Egremont.
Charles Lawther   10 months. born Hensingham.

[*Sandra*]

Is this a possible for this marriage ?  Needs checked. Going to be interesting going thru all the Lowther earthenware and china dealers 

Lancashire, England, Extracted Parish Records. Lancashire: Hawkshead - Marriage Register, 1754-1837

April 17 1827 Charles Lowther of the Parish of Wigton in the County of Cumberland and Mary Miller with Consent of Isaac Miller lawful father of the said Mary Miller (L. Br., Gr. mark)


1841 Brigham Cockermouth. All born in County.

Charles Lowther   30 Labour. Born in County.
Mary Lowther   30
Joseph Lowther   10
Charles Lowther   4
John Lowther   1

There is a death Wigton District in March 1843  ??

Deaths Mar 1843
 
LOWTHER    Mary        Wigton    25   134    



Looks like the father Charles may have married twice.  This would be the second wife on the 1851 census



1851 Charles Lowther with parents -    Bridekirk Cockermouth Cumberland

Charles Lowther   42 Hawker of earthenware. Born Shap. Westmorland.
Anne Lowther   41 born Wigton. Cumberland.
James Lowther   17 born Whitehaven.
Jane Lowther   13 born Cockermouth.
Charles Lowther   11 born Cockermouth.

Could this be the marriage ?  Picked up on ancestry tree ??
Says Ann Lowther was a possible "cousin"  ??

Charles Lowther

Marriage Date   11 Feb 1844 Marriage Place   Millom, Cumberland, England
Father    Henry Lowther
Spouse    Anne Lowther

[AlanBoyd]

The details of the Lowther family in the article transcribed below match the 1881 census return corresponding to Thomas Lowther born 1875. In the disabilty column for that return Charles Lowther (46) is "blind ?? in iron mine". I can’t post an image because this is a lookup request thread.

19 October 1883: Maryport Advertiser

CHARGE OF STABBING.

CHARLES LOWTHER, the elder (50), labourer, unable to read or write, was indicted for unlawfully and maliciously wounding Charles Lowther, the younger, with a knife, at Egremont, on the 16th of July, 1883. The prisoner is a blind man, and the prosecutor is his son. –Mr. SHAND was for the prosecution, and said that the prosecutor's statement was that he was a miner, residing at Egremont with his father. About half-past eleven at night on the 16th of July, he was in the kitchen with his father, who was drunk, having been so during the previous Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. His brother-in-law, John Sloan, knocked at the door, and the prisoner, hearing Sloan's voice, wanted to open the door, but witness would not let him, and a struggle took place. The son got the father down, and during the struggle on the sofa, another son, William Lowther, saw that the father was using a knife. Charles Lowther, on getting away from the sofa, found that he had been wounded in three places. There were two wounds at the back of the shoulder, and one on the shoulder blade. He did not see the knife in his father's hand, nor did he feel the wounds when he was stabbed. As soon as the prisoner was taken he said "Yes, I did it; and here's what I did it with," and he handed a knife over. –  Prisoner now pleaded "I am guilty, but I remember nothing, about it." – This was held to be a plea of not guilty, and he was put upon his trial. He accused his son Charles of having abused him on five different occasions during the last twelve months. —The son acknowledged that the father had called in a sergeant of police on one occasion, but he denied having repeatedly abused his father. He did not think his father knew what he was doing at times. –Charles Lowther, Mary Ann Quirk, and William Lowther gave evidence as to the struggle and seeing the knife. –Dr. Calderwood described the cuts, the largest of which was 2 1/2 inches. –Police-constable Lewis (192) gave evidence of the apprehension and confession of the prisoner. –The CHAIRMAN said no plea of ill usage could justify the prisoner's conduct. –The jury found prisoner Guilty, but recommended him to mercy on account of his blindness. –He was sentenced to Four months' imprisonment with hard labour.