Mystery MANSFIELD.family

[Dundee]

One of the witnesses is Louis Mansfield
Could be a brother .

It is Louis FULLAGAR, not Louis MANSFIELD.

Debra 

[heywood]

Brigidmac,
Which Frances Mansfield have you been following - the wrong one.
We might be posting re the one you hav3 discounted.
Where do you have the family in 1911?

[heywood]

1891 census- Francis Mansfield daughter of Amelia Barrow 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7QHR-R6Z

Added- is Amelia's daughter Fanny Goldberry mother of 'Francis' Mansfield?

Very interesting and is possible, aghadowey. Good find.

[Dundee]

The first letter is a W not an M.  The previous page has a William.  I think WALLER or WALTER, he doesn't always make a mark to cross his T.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02572/1951003.pdf

Debra 

[brigidmac]

Thanks everyone
Looks like we might be unravelling this

I followed the Frances Mansfield born in Kettering Northamptonshire
Who also had a father called George but was 9 in 1891
Connections to Derbyshire . Leicester and Northamptonshire

The one with Amelia Barrow
Looks very likely
I'm just going to check the records ... may be a while

Apologies yes it was Louis fullager NOT MANSFIELD who was witness maybe Frances family were all still in Ireland and could not attend her 1906 wedding

[aghadowey]

Why do you assume she had family in Ireland when she married in 1906? All we have to go on at the moment is a Dublin birth in 1887 then possible sightings in England in 1891 and 1901 before she married in England. No sign yet of parents George and Frances in Ireland before or after her birth (no marriage or deaths).

[brigidmac]

Frances was in 1911 census as wife of hawker & fishmonger George FULLAGER
They'd been married 6 years and had had 2 children the one living is Frances Gertrude Fullager age 4
24 upper hill street Liverpool

George died in 1917
Apparently by 1921 she'd moved in with Fred DILLON who she married in 1930 the children were using his surname

I've not seen that record

And in 1939 she was officially Frances Dillon with more children who may have been his or born between 1918 and 1939 to both of them
Dorothy b1920 Edna  1920 Joan 1923

Trying to find the census with Amelia Barrow on ancestry bro view the original

[aghadowey]

Frances Mansfield is with Amelia in 1891 and 1901.

[brigidmac]

I'm still trying to see the original records

I suspect daughter fanny Goldsberry is a miss transcription of Goldberg
As Harry Goldberg is down as son in law

Sbe could well be Frances Walter/Waller remarrying.. if George Mansfield died young

I didn't assume Francis Mansfield had family in Ireland I just meant if she did they might not be able to attend her wedding