John Jones

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Have been looking at the marriage in 1869 on familysearch.org and there are two different returns -

Both say John Johns age 31 a Miner (so born 1838/9) but one says Elizabeth J Lamson age 28 (so born 1841/2) and the other Elizabeth J Lampshire same age. The one showing Lamson is Image 258 of 605 (page 255 entry No 1) - Marriage return to the Hon Secretary of State of Michigan and the Lampshire Image No 44 of 665 (entry no 78) on the State of Michigan record. 

On Free BMD and in Ancestry records there is an Elizabeth Jane  Lampshire born in Truro District Cornwall in Dec Quarter 1842 so it seems that  this John's wifes maiden name may have been Lampshire. The 1851 census show her as living in Gwennap with her mother Ann (a widow at the time). However maybe this marriage is not connected?

Making things more complicated there is an Elizabeth Andrews born Dec Quarter 1842 Redruth  District Cornwall and this district includes Gwennap!! More questions seem to follow the 1886 marriage to Martin Trewhella which shows her as age 33 (he was 26) - this seems to suggest she was born 1853 (but perhaps she was really 43?). If you could find a death record for her it might help.   

Apologises if it is confusing.

Alan

[Lisa in California]

As well as Eliza J Andrews and John Jones having a son George (born c1871, England), Eliza appears to have had another child (per 1910 Stuntz, St Louis, Minnesota census, found under Eliza Greulella - Anc*try):
Clara Jones, born 1882, England

Added: Eliza (29), Geo (10), [Cannot read name - 8 years old), Laura? (4), Clara (infant) - sailed on board the Republic, arriving New York, 9 July 1881.

Now wondering if Eliza (and John) were not your couple.

[Lisa in California]

George Jones was born in Saltburn, England, 9 Aug 1870, per U.S. petition for naturalization.  So, perhaps this is the incorrect family.

[Lisa in California]

Sorry, family just arrived.  Writing quickly…

Could be John, Eliza and George in Lofthouse, Yorkshire in 1871 census.  John born Cornwall possibly Baralston?

Added: John was recorded as Devonshire, Baralston, as was Eliza.  For John’s entry, Devonshire was crossed off, and Cornwall was added.

[staplehouse]

firstly thank you so much for what has been provide
i went with John Jones marry Eliza Jane Andrews and it seems to be the correct one so far
because as you stated that Eliza married Martin Trewhella after John died. George went back to back to England but was throw out because he would not conform with the anglican Church so went back to USA to Cook where he married there and followed the Salvation Army
No I have found Martin Trewhella death  which 15 Aug 1925 at Inglewood Los Angeles and Eliza is buried there but I can not found a date for her only 1928 can you help me with this date?
In Martin Death Notice it stats he was the father of Mrs R A Pattterson Mrs Cari Drieshach of Duluth Mrs W Cox, Will Jones of Nashwauk and George Jones of Chilcago  I try to found out who these woman where  do you know how I could find out  wait a reply cheers and Thanks

[Tall Al]

Hi,

It seems Eliza Jane died on 5 September 1928 at itasca, Minnesota (see familysearch.org) - her parents showing as Wm Andrews and Phillipa Scobie.

There is a marriage in Truro Cornwall, England between William Andrew and Phillipa Scoble in 1841.

The 1900 USA census  for Minnesota show that Eliza Jane had 8 children with 5 still living at the time, 2 of them Clara (1878) and Mona (1882) living with them. Nothing else investigated to date.

A tree on family search shows 9 children for William and Phillipa - William 1841; Phillipa 1845;Joseph 1847; Joseph J 1848; Elizabeth 1849;Eliza J 1852; John 1856; Elisha 1860; Matilda 1860.

Alan