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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 16:55 BST (UK) »
I believe this is the death record for Ann:

First name(s) Ann
County Glamorganshire
Last name Harris
Volume 11A
Sex Female
Page 527
Birth year 1848
Country Wales
Age 49
Death quarter 2
Death year 1897
District Swansea
Collections from Great Britain, Wales
East Sussex: Ellis, Lavender, Brook, Saxby, Hayward, Akehurst, Thompson-Skinner, Blackford, Hawkins, Humphrey, Hazelman, Wood, Pennells, Collins, Keeley, Woodgate, Bailey, Rummery
West Sussex: Sear, Trevett
Hampshire: Biggs, New, Andrews, Harding, Stubbington, Everett, Cardy, Stocker, Keeping,
Northumberland: Yellowley, Bolton, Thompson
Durham: Redhead, Henderson
London: Lancaster, Greasty
Dorset: Tizard
Yorkshire: Mears, Burnett, Day
Kent: Warman
Scotland: McIvor, Robertson
Ireland: Murphy

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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 17:01 BST (UK) »
David and Catherine's 1911 census match:

Name   David Harries
Age in 1911   52
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1859
Relation to Head   Head
Gender   Male
Birth Place   Cwmaman, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish   Llansamlet
County/Island   Glamorgan
Country   Wales
Street Address   Balaclava House Glais
Marital Status   Married
Years Married   10
Estimated Marriage Year   1901
Occupation   Coal Miner Hewer Underground
Registration district   Swansea
Registration District Number   594
Sub-registration district   Llansamlet
ED, institution, or vessel   01
Household schedule number   68
Piece   32800
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
David Harries   52   Head
Cathrine Harries
50
Wife
James Hamilton Evans
22
Boarder
Joshua Morris Evans
44
Boarder
East Sussex: Ellis, Lavender, Brook, Saxby, Hayward, Akehurst, Thompson-Skinner, Blackford, Hawkins, Humphrey, Hazelman, Wood, Pennells, Collins, Keeley, Woodgate, Bailey, Rummery
West Sussex: Sear, Trevett
Hampshire: Biggs, New, Andrews, Harding, Stubbington, Everett, Cardy, Stocker, Keeping,
Northumberland: Yellowley, Bolton, Thompson
Durham: Redhead, Henderson
London: Lancaster, Greasty
Dorset: Tizard
Yorkshire: Mears, Burnett, Day
Kent: Warman
Scotland: McIvor, Robertson
Ireland: Murphy

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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 17:43 BST (UK) »
1921 free index. View full record for details - pay to view. Only 2 showing in household.

David William Harris 1857 b Glanaman, Carmarthenshire, living Swansea

Catherine Harris 1859 b Glais, Glamorganshire, Wales living Swansea

I put in address search for Glais only 1 hit came up.

Think he may have added William after death of father?

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 17:57 BST (UK) »
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/gazetteer#G

Check Glanaman on link ties in birthplaces given. Having lived in Llansamlet since very young it is understandable he put some pob there.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Betws

Also

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/LlandeiloFawr

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 19:44 BST (UK) »
Bit of info on William's death (based on his address in 1901). translated from the original Welsh

22 April 1909

Peniel (Chapel) lost its oldest deacon, and one of its founders in the death of brother William Harris, Nicholas Road. He lived to the fair age of 79. Since the start of the year he had the 'crown of old age' [not sure what this is - perhaps he was oldest in the congregation?] No doubt his loyalty to the best cause has now secured him a better crown. God protect his grieving widow who is like him in the shadows of the evening [of life].
A resident of Glais.

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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 19:47 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage for William & Mary, first child Elisabeth born c1855. All first 3 children from census can be found with mmn Davies in reg district Llaneilofawr. So very possible.

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Name   William Harries
Marriage Age   Full Age
Marriage Date   12 Dec 1854
Marriage Place   Llandeilofawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Father   David Harries, occ. Smith
Spouse   Mary Davies, full age, spinster, father David occ. Lab
Page number   247

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 21:24 BST (UK) »
Probate register entry for David Harris, of Danycoed House, Balaclava, Glais. Died 19 march 1922. Probate to widow Catherine. Effects £222 2s 6d

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David W Harris
Age    65
Q1 1922
Swansea  Vol 11a, p1703