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Offline loubrisbane

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Please help! Isaac Jones
« on: Tuesday 30 April 24 16:52 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I've hit a brick wall with research on my 2nd great-grandfather, Isaac (Moses?) Jones. Born 1861 in Llandrillo (Caernarvonshire) and died 1948 in Aled (Denbighshire).

His history is confusing.

The 1861 Welsh census names him and his twin sister as 'Moses and Martha Jones' (six days old when the census was recorded). However, every other census post-1861 lists their forenames as Isaac and Sarah Jones. I can't find any birth records to confirm the link between Moses - Isaac, Martha - Sarah. Perhaps they were middle names. I'm not sure.

I seem to be going around in circles. Sorry if this isn't clear, I'm new to family tree stuff! Any help is greatly appreciated.

Lou

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Re: Please help! Isaac Jones
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 21:52 BST (UK) »
It could be that the parents hadn't yet decided on names for their babies.

Birth regs
Isaac Jones jun qtr 1861 Conway vol 11b pg 558 mmn Evans
Sarah Jones jun qtr 1861 Conway vol 11b pg 558 mmn Evans
younger brother on 1871 census
Llewelyn Jones dec qtr 1869 Conway vol 11b pg 539 mmn Evans

Possible marriage
5 Dec 1846 St Catherine's Colwyn
Owen Jones of age bach labourer Colwyn father Daniel Jones butcher
Margaret Evans of age spinster Talybont father David Evans labourer
witnesses Grace Davies & David Jones
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Please help! Isaac Jones
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 22:19 BST (UK) »
I was going to suggest the same thing. I've definitely had names picked out for my children at 6 days post birth that I didn't end up using.

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Re: Please help! Isaac Jones
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 22:21 BST (UK) »
It’s quite possible that the Enumerator made a mistake in the name when transferring the information to his book from the household schedule. You don’t know who filled out the schedule, it could have been someone other than the father or mother..  I have come across instances where that has happened.  There is always the possibility or errors in transcriptions.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Please help! Isaac Jones
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 22:23 BST (UK) »
Although Isaac and Sarah were born towrds the end of March their Births were probably not registered until April and they would therefore appear in the 2nd quarter of 1861. i.e June 1861

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Re: Please help! Isaac Jones
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 08:31 BST (UK) »
Quote from: osprey on Tuesday 30 April 24 21:52 BST (UK)

Possible marriage
5 Dec 1846 St Catherine's Colwyn
Owen Jones of age bach labourer Colwyn father Daniel Jones butcher
Margaret Evans of age spinster Talybont father David Evans labourer
witnesses Grace Davies & David Jones

Hello, Osprey.

Thank you so much for having a look at my problem. This is right; Owen Jones was my 3rd g.gf. He married Margaret Evans. He was Isaac's father.

Best wishes,

Lou




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