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Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 19:05 BST (UK) »
In the 1871 census he was living in Plymouth with his wife Catherine and children,both stating being born inLaunceston Cornwall.
In the 1881 census he was living in Deal Kent having remarried.
I recently posted a topic under Kent "William Harris of Deal",his second wife leaving him in 1881.
I cannot find a record of his wife Catherine's death,presumably between 1871 and 1881.
I found a death for a Samuel Harris in Bideford Devon District,age 86,born 1825,buried 1911.
I cannot find anything about him between the 1881 census and his death in 1911 and wonder if he returned to Devon or Cornwall after 1881?
I found a 1841 census record for Dawlish Devon showing a George Harris 18 Tailor and Samuel Harris 16,both born Devon.A bit strange ?
Any help greatly appreciated,including any records between 1841 and 1871.
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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 19:30 BST (UK) »
What name & occupation does he give for his father on his marriage cert?
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 19:35 BST (UK) »
possible baptism in Launceston to John & Thomazin

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=6523544

Marriage 23 July 1846 in Stoke Damerel to Kitty Baker, a widow. His father John Harris, soldier and hers Richard Allen, gardener.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 19:37 BST (UK) »
1861 entry shows Catherine as Kitty

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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)


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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 20:16 BST (UK) »
daughter Anne married Robert Gibbings 8 July 1880, Annie Mary's father Samuel, a tailor. One of the witnesses was sister Emma Miners.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DRC-RT7

1891 census for Gibbings family and Catherine Harris age 70 b. Launceston
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W46Q-6ZM
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 21:14 BST (UK) »
This is the chap who died in 1911

Samuel Harris
Age    86
Burial    24 Nov 1911 Northam & Appledore, Devon

There's a Samuel in Northam on the 1911 census. Born Appledore, living with daughter Angelina Rees

Working back he lives in the area all his life, is an ag lab and was married to Elizabeth

So I guess not your man

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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 21:26 BST (UK) »
Katherine C Harris b Launceston c1826 is in Plymouth in 1881. States she's a widow

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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 21:58 BST (UK) »
possible death regs
Catherine Harris 67 march qtr 1892 Plymouth vol 5b pg 247

Samuel Harris 63 march qtr 1887 Plymouth vol 5b pg 235
I don't usually look at other people's trees, but apparently this death was registered by Ann Mary Gibbings, his
daughter.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Samuel Harris,a tailor,born around 1825.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 22:15 BST (UK) »
baptism for one of the sons born in Kent
12 Jan 1881 Deal
Samuel Robert, son of Samuel Harris, tailor, and Charlotte Lill of 64 Middle Street - this implies the couple were not married.

Death reg for this child
Samuel Robert H Lill 8 dec qtr 1887 Eastry vol 2a pg 542

1851 census for Samuel & Kitty
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJ7-3Q6

and 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7YN-6M8
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb