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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 May 24 20:53 BST (UK) »
Oh that's interesting I've come across a Niven before

There are no marriages in Scotland for an Alexander
& No Perth births

In fact there aren't many Mansfield s at all between 1841-1861

It's a very precise  detail about the regiment

I suppose what she knows at wedding is more reliable than a death certificate where the informant probably did not know the parents of deceased
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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 02 May 24 20:56 BST (UK) »
Rosie I don't think it's Innes as there is an upward stroke in middle
No capital I on page to compare  it looks a bit like the S on seaman
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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:00 BST (UK) »
Hi,

     I think I would suggest asking Scotland’s People for assistance, in reading the page, they will probably rescan. This may make everything clear.
     Looking at the page it is fairly clear that the name entered is Francesco, and this is what it is indexed under.
     Have you looked at Maria Mansfield, born in Perth in 1857, Mansfield seems a fairly unusual surname, this may be her, or a sibling.
     I would not be too concerned about the death certificate, names could be flexible, especially in the Army. He was dead by the time she married, and so the informant may have got it wrong. Who were they?
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:05 BST (UK) »
The informant was her daughter Annie, now married to Reid.

John and Frances had a son named Niven John McCormick in 1877, but he died in 1879.

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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:09 BST (UK) »
The birth for Maria Mansfield 1857 Perth has parents as
James Mansfield
Lillias Duncan

So different Mansfield

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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:14 BST (UK) »
What date was Francess death please ? I wonder why they changed surname sometimes .


Annie Begg born Glasgow is the daughter is the line through whom the DNA connection occurs

Her son was James Mansfield  REID
b 1902 Harrogate England

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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie I ve run out of credits on SP .

Ancestry has some of the census BMD
But not the originals

INDUS. Doesn't seem to be a Scottish surname

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:20 BST (UK) »
Frances died of bronchitis 16 January 1917 at 149 Graeme Street Glasgow.  Her daughter Annie gave her own address as 14 Errol Street.

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Re: Mothers maiden name
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 02 May 24 21:36 BST (UK) »
The n in “Indus” is similar to the n in and.  Could the word be  _ _ _ns.    Could the d actually be a different letter with a “dot” hovering near/above it?

My Vaus records are often transcribed as Vans.  n and u can be mistaken.  :-\
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