Help with a brick wall please 🙏 thank you

[rosie99]

They lived in Hackney area of London , they had my 3rd great Granddad , William Jospeh chapman ( born 1853 Hackney 

Where do you have William Joseph on the census

[David Nicoll]

Hi, do you have any more information. How do you know her maiden name was Green?
Am I correct that this is the parents of William Joseph Chapman, Carman who is in the 1911 Census with Alice and Neice, Flory Thrussel.

[rosie99]

How do you know her maiden name was Green?

Childrens birth registrations show her as Green

No middle names mentioned on birth registrations

CHAPMAN, JOSEPH   mmn    GREEN 
GRO Reference: 1852  March Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 262

CHAPMAN, WILLIAM    mmn   GREEN 
GRO Reference: 1854  March Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 289
 

[David Nicoll]

Hi, you misunderstand, yes the are Chapman / Green births in Hackney, but there are other Chapman families in the area at the time.
I was asking about the identification of the as the correct births. People do not always know where they were born, rather than growing up.

[rosie99]

Could this be Joseph in 1861 living at 1 Fairey Street, Hackney

Elizabeth   Green   Widow   58   occ   Laundress   bn Witney, Oxfordshire
Joseph   Green   Grandson   7   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex
Harriet   Thomas   Granddaughter   3   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex, England
RG09/154 f20 p33

In 1851 at Pullens Place, Hackney
Elizabeth   Green   Widow   48   bn   Witney, Oxfordshire
Elizabeth   Green   Daughter   Unmarried   18   bn    Stamford Hill, Middlesex, England
H0107/1504 f9 p11

[Ladyhawk]

Could this be Joseph in 1861 living at 1 Fairey Street, Hackney

Elizabeth   Green   Widow   58   occ   Laundress   bn Witney, Oxfordshire
Joseph   Green   Grandson   7   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex
Harriet   Thomas   Granddaughter   3   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex, England
RG09/154 f20 p33

In 1851 at Pullens Place, Hackney
Elizabeth   Green   Widow   48   bn   Witney, Oxfordshire
Elizabeth   Green   Daughter   Unmarried   18   bn    Stamford Hill, Middlesex, England
H0107/1504 f9 p11

Rosie those census entries look promising a shame Emzunicorn01 has gone offline

Added possible marriage for Elizabeth Green’s daughter

Elizabeth Green Age   26, laundress, res 5 Union Street father James occ labourer
Married 25 Dec 1859 Saint Leonard, Shoreditch: Shoreditch High Street, Hackney
Spouse    George Thomas

1861c
Piece   154
Folio   22
Page number   37
George Thomas 27 Head
Elizabeth Thomas 28 laundress, Stamford Hill, Middlesex
George Thomas 7 mths Son >>>>>>>>>>mmn Green

[Emzunicorn01]

Hi, do you have any more information. How do you know her maiden name was Green?
Am I correct that this is the parents of William Joseph Chapman, Carman who is in the 1911 Census with Alice and Neice, Flory Thrussel.

Yes this is them

[Emzunicorn01]

Could this be Joseph in 1861 living at 1 Fairey Street, Hackney

Elizabeth   Green   Widow   58   occ   Laundress   bn Witney, Oxfordshire
Joseph   Green   Grandson   7   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex
Harriet   Thomas   Granddaughter   3   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex, England
RG09/154 f20 p33

In 1851 at Pullens Place, Hackney
Elizabeth   Green   Widow   48   bn   Witney, Oxfordshire
Elizabeth   Green   Daughter   Unmarried   18   bn    Stamford Hill, Middlesex, England
H0107/1504 f9 p11

Rosie those census entries look promising a shame Emzunicorn01 has gone offline

Added possible marriage for Elizabeth Green’s daughter

Elizabeth Green Age   26, laundress, res 5 Union Street father James occ labourer
Married 25 Dec 1859 Saint Leonard, Shoreditch: Shoreditch High Street, Hackney
Spouse    George Thomas

1861c
Piece   154
Folio   22
Page number   37
George Thomas 27 Head
Elizabeth Thomas 28 laundress, Stamford Hill, Middlesex
George Thomas 7 mths Son >>>>>>>>>>mmn Green

Thank you so much I will look at this , no I haven’t gone off line , I had little ones to put to bed 😊

[Emzunicorn01]

Could this be Joseph in 1861 living at 1 Fairey Street, Hackney

Elizabeth   Green   Widow   58   occ   Laundress   bn Witney, Oxfordshire
Joseph   Green   Grandson   7   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex
Harriet   Thomas   Granddaughter   3   Scholar   bn West Hackney, Middlesex, England
RG09/154 f20 p33

In 1851 at Pullens Place, Hackney
Elizabeth   Green   Widow   48   bn   Witney, Oxfordshire
Elizabeth   Green   Daughter   Unmarried   18   bn    Stamford Hill, Middlesex, England
H0107/1504 f9 p11

Could my Elizabeth Green have been married before and not disclosed it ? Thanks ☺️