Author Topic: Viva Francesa Beckwith Speers abt 1912–1982 Twice married, Died in Chichester,  (Read 391 times)

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Re: What even happened to Fanny Viva SPEERS [born Leominster 1908] after 1911?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 24 May 24 18:21 BST (UK) »
Have you seen the marriage of Viva F Beckwith-Speers or Viva F B Speers in Kensington in 1935 to Noel Govett?

He was from Cardiff apparently

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/51720035/person/272370266429/facts
SHAUN
many thanks.
Yes her first marriage to GOVETT is one of the my connections and with a village of my childhood of Stogursey,

Charles Clement Gould Govett Court bailiff in 1911
1867–1956
BIRTH 4 JAN 1867 • Stogursey, Somerset, England
DEATH 13 FEB 1956 • Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

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Re: What even happened to Fanny Viva SPEERS [born Leominster 1908] after 1911?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 May 24 18:25 BST (UK) »
Looks like she's with the same Speers family in 1921. Living in Cardiff. Her name is Viva on the census return. However, FindMyPast have transcribed it as "Pierce".  ???
Born 1908 in Leominster.

There's also another granddaughter with them. Adela Kathleen Speers, born 1912 in Cardiff.

MMN also Daniells (as per birth reg).
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thank you for telling me about another mis-transcription, I sometimes assume that the individual just likes to fiddle with their name every 10 years!

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Re: What even happened to Fanny Viva SPEERS [born Leominster 1908] after 1911?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 24 May 24 18:28 BST (UK) »
Gro.gov records

Fanny Viva Speers 1908 Leominster
Mothers maiden name Daniel

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thank you,
I will now follow her mother and see that the surname is sometimes spelt double 'L'.

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Re: What even happened to Fanny Viva SPEERS [born Leominster 1908] after 1911?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 24 May 24 18:32 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this info has been posted on either posts, sorry if it has.

Fanny Viva Speers was born 24th May 1908 at 45, Etnam Street, Leominster. Her father was recorded as William Beckwith Speers-occ- Mechanical Engineer, mother Gertrude Viva Speers formerly Daniel of 50, Catherine Street, Hereford. Gertrude registered the birth.

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Thank you for the BIRTH address in Leominster and that of her mother in Hertford, sorry HEREFORD.


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Re: What even happened to Fanny Viva SPEERS [born Leominster 1908] after 1911?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 24 May 24 20:04 BST (UK) »
Info only re Gertrude.

DANIELS, GERTRUDE       mmn HARRISON 
GRO Reference: 1883  D Quarter in HEREFORD  Volume 06A  Page 477

Parents Frederick Daniels & Fanny Harrison married dq 1877 Hereford.

1891 census ref 2062 109 16---with grandparents John & Martha Harrison

1901 census --
17, Catherine Street, Hereford St Peter, Hereford, Herefordshire, England--Fanny Daniels (mother) & Frederick (Brother)

1901 GERTIE Daniels ref 2481 24 40

Marries 1907 Cardiff.

1908 birth of Fanny Viva Speers, Gertrude of 50, Catherine Street, Hereford.

1911 census--53 Catherine St Hereford, St Peter, Herefordshire, England, Frederick Daniels born 1881 with wife and children, he is Gertrude's brother.

1911 census Gertrude !!!!!!!!!!!!!

1921 census !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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