Searching for Arthur von POELLNITZ

[mckha489]

This Arthur’s niece kept a diary.
https://wynnesdiary.com/nicknames-and-all-those-strange-edwardian-words-that-wynne-uses/

But I think it is too late for her to know anything about Arthur’s earlier life - IF Australia/NZ/Fiji Arthur = Argentina /Brazil /england Arthur.

[spades]

Hi Guys,

Thank you for all the information you found.

I have read it over three times and am left with the impression that we might have two different Arthurs, particularly because the 1884 article I transcribed mentioning his conviction for forgery in Fiji along with his wife filing for divorce occurs three years prior to the marriage to Catherine ELLIOT in 1887.

What do you think?

Regards,

Spades

[mckha489]

Well I thought he could be marrying for a second time in 1887.
The birth place of English Arthur is a very good match

But one thing I worried about was the jail sentence, if he was indeed jailed for 7 years, the timing doesn’t work.

If we could find Arthur in Australia Leaving it would be good but I haven’t.
Or him anywhere after 1887.

Also cannot find a death for the Arthur in England.  With all the connections of that family he could have died anywhere.

There is an 1910 shipping list to New York, that one has an occupation of “explorer”.

[spades]

Hi mckha,

Thanks for that, I agree with you on all points. I think it's unlikely to be two Baron Arthur VON POELNITZ's of the nobility roaming around.

I'll try to find more information about the Fiji case.

When I first found the 'Baron' arriving in AUS I wondered if he was a remittance man but I think that theory can be discarded.

Thanks again to you and Rosie for all your work,

Spades

[spades]

Hi Mckha and Rosie,

It is the same man! 

The clincher is this page in Wynne's Diary, para 2, where Thurie (Wynnes alias for Arthur) is mentioned recounting stories of his time in Australia and of acclimatisation of annuals and plants there, both of which match what we already know of him. I wonder if he ever talked about his Armed Constabulary service or his less salubrious life events.
https://wynnesdiary.com/1923-september-viewer-5/

So now I need to find his death and burial, and maybe a first marriage.

There are a total of thirteen files regarding him sitting at Archives NZ which I'll get in the coming weeks.

I have just emailed the Fiji Times newspaper requesting a search of their archives for the court case and their divorce, as the paper was in print then. I'll keep you posted.

Brilliant work, thanks again.

Spades

[mckha489]

Oh excellent!
I only glanced at  the summary pages of the diary.  I am very glad you persevered.

so - in 1923 Arthur is in Germany.

[spades]

Yes.

The diary doesn't mention his death but I wonder if he died in Bavaria. If so, he came full circle.

Spades

[rosie17]

That's great news I was looking at records for his family early on this morning .His mother was listed as living at
5 Montague Road Richmond Surrey going by the probate record for her husband who died 8 March 1879 .He was a Captain in the Bavarian Army..So the family must have been back in the U K matching the record for immigration record for Arthur B Palintz leaving Southampton going to Melbourne 1868 .His mother died 1915 Farnham you can find a record on findagrave Eleanore Mary Elliot Poellintz 13 March 1814 - 12 February 1915
I thought we might have been lucky in finding her son with her but nothing so far

Rosie

[spades]

Hi Rosie,

Thanks very much for that. I had a look on FindaGrave and read the inscription.

Yes, I agree that her son Arthur and his wife Caroline nee ELLIOT were mostly likely cousins as noted in an earlier post.

Regards,

Spades