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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 May 24 19:39 BST (UK) »
This might just be a coincidence there is a death for a
William A Crane
10 February 1935
Cook County Illinois
It gives his birth date as 8 Jan 1865 Wexford Ireland
Wrong parents names maybe the person registering the death was unsure
Father William
Mother Collins
Both parents born Wexford

I noticed the baptism for William Crean
Baptism date 8 January 1865 Wexford
Father Aiden Creen
Mother Mary Redmond

There is a record on findagrave William Aden Crane

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The parish register says born and baptized 8th January - differing from the civil registration. I would tend to believe the parish register.
Also surname is Crean in parish register.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634139#page/224/mode/1up
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 May 24 19:46 BST (UK) »
Yes I would say it's most likely the one you are looking for with the middle name
Aden /Aiden .Maybe a wee bit more investigation his wife's name is Elizabeth Hughes and she was also from Ireland .Not found a marriage so far in Ireland

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 May 24 20:01 BST (UK) »
Yes I would say it's most likely the one you are looking for with the middle name
Aden /Aiden .Maybe a wee bit more investigation his wife's name is Elizabeth Hughes and she was also from Ireland .Not found a marriage so far in Ireland

Rosie

There is a marriage in Chicago.

So where were they in 1900, 1910, etc, though. Elusive!
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 May 24 20:22 BST (UK) »
1900 they were in Chicago Ward 5
Transcribed as Wm Crana on Ancestry
1910 Chicago Ward 2

William Crane 44 born Ireland
Elizabeth Crane 45 born Ireland
Family Josephine 15, William 14, Francis 12,Joseph 10,Belle 8

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 27 May 24 20:28 BST (UK) »
1900 they were in Chicago Ward 5
Transcribed as Wm Crana on Ancestry
1910 Chicago Ward 2

William Crane 44 born Ireland
Elizabeth Crane 45 born Ireland
Family Josephine 15, William 14, Francis 12,Joseph 10,Belle 8

Rosie

Much obliged to you and Millipede!

I think I saw this Crane family many years ago, but did not think they were "mine", as none of the children were named for the grandparents. William's gravestone and notes thereon seems to confirm that none were so named. Strange - perhaps a falling out, and why the parents names are incorrect on his death registration.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/40047289/william-aden-crane
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 May 24 20:32 BST (UK) »
I don't have a subscription to newspapers.com.might be more information there to confirm if this William is yours

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 May 24 20:42 BST (UK) »
I don't have a subscription to newspapers.com.might be more information there to confirm if this William is yours

Rosie

Very strange - some details fit perfectly, others not at all. Unusual with this family - in general, they knew who they were, when they were born, etc.

I don't have a US newspaper subscription, only Irish/British - I have no US ancestry, this is a collateral line.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 00:53 BST (UK) »
There is family tree for William on FamilySearch, interesting in that it has details for children, but of course it has the incorrect parents from his death registration.

The parish register for the Cathedral in Chicago, where he married Lizzie Hughes in February 1890 only shows the names of the parties and a single witness. Not even as much as a typical (poor) Irish parish register, which would normally have two witnesses. IIRC, Cook Co. marriage licenses also only show the names of the parties - no parents names.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 07:33 BST (UK) »
Yes I did see that tree on family search the parents names obviously been copied from the death certificate .No other information on the parents and as you said not much information on his marriage certificate .We are lucky here in Scotland with information provided in our certificates .I did have a look on the Irish site for a birth for William with parents mentioned from the death certificate but no luck  ???

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