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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 June 24 18:41 BST (UK) »
Griffith's Valuation, in 1853, shows a John Hamilton in Ballinamona, with a 56-2-24 acre farm, and house valued at 1-10-0  (L-s-d)
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 June 24 18:45 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth had at least 4 siblings, born Ballinamona 1819 - 1830.
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 June 24 18:58 BST (UK) »
While the NAI site lists Thomas Hamilton as being in Ballinamona in 1833, my reading of the oriinal entry is J. Hamilton - consistent with John.
https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587403/004587403_00491.pdf

He was farming 34-2-0 acres. These are Irish acres, equivalent to 56 English acres, so the same farm as in Griffith's Valuation in 1853.
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 June 24 19:10 BST (UK) »
An aspect of this doesn't seem "right" to me:

The  John Hamilton of Ballinamona was a substantial farmer. It doesn't fit this profile for his daughter to be a dressmaker in Liverpool, married at age 16 to a tailor.

So, I wonder is this is the correct Elizabeth Hamilton.
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 June 24 19:14 BST (UK) »
An aspect of this doesn't seem "right" to me:

The  John Hamilton of Ballinamona was a substantial farmer. It doesn't fit this profile for his daughter to be a dressmaker in Liverpool, married at age 16 to a tailor.

So, I wonder is this is the correct Elizabeth Hamilton.

The Elizabeth Hamilton who married John Byrne in Ballyoughter on 11-Feb-1846, would seem to me to be a much stronger candidate to be the Elizabeth Hamilton born in Ballinamona in 1821.
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 June 24 19:19 BST (UK) »
The Elizabeth Hamilton who married John Byrne in Ballyoughter on 11-Feb-1846, would seem to me to be a much stronger candidate to be the Elizabeth Hamilton born in Ballinamona in 1821.

I think my suspicion is confirmed. This Elizabeth Hamilton had a daughter, Mary Byrne, in Ballinamona in 1847. Sponsor Charles Hamilton - her known brother, born 1824.

So, I am afraid that the origin of OP's Elizabeth Hamilton was misidentified - not the "Bess" Hamilton baptized Ballinamona in 1821.
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 27 June 24 19:29 BST (UK) »
An alternative candidate for OP's Elizabeth Hamilton is the one born and baptized 9/Nov/1815 in New Ross. Daughter of John Hamilton and Elizabeth Brennan.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634101#page/47/mode/1up

Of course that would need to be investigated in more detail.
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 27 June 24 23:00 BST (UK) »
I think John Hayes was Church of Ireland and Elizabeth was RC.

What is the basis for this?
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Re: The Hayes Family of Curracloe, County Wexford, Ireland
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 27 June 24 23:03 BST (UK) »
Griffith's Valuation in 1853 shows a George Hayes with a small 3 acre holding in the townland of Coolrainey, which adjoins the townland of Curracloe.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-east/st-margarets/ardcolm/coolrainey/

Note that the village of Curracloe is not in the townland of the same name, so "Curracloe" has a more general application. Also the famous Curracloe beach of course.
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