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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #18 on: Monday 01 July 24 17:39 BST (UK) »
Browsing through Liverpool papers at around the right date I have found a report of the death of Ann Turton, inmate of the benevolent Institution, Wellington road, who fell down a well.
She was taken to the Southern and Toxteth Hospital (DC in initial post says South Hospital)
Paper published 3rd sept (saturday) it said she died previous sunday (which would be 28 Aug - so it fits except name a bit different.
Yes this is promising as on the death cert it says place of death Southern Hospital !

I am still wondering if she is also Tarleton, the one you mentioned must definitely be the one I found then.
This will be the frustrating part now, trying to find a link, I have searched for Ann Tarleton in census, deaths and marriages but no luck.

Many thanks for this.

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #19 on: Monday 01 July 24 21:53 BST (UK) »
would it make sense to you that someone would include the name of a sibling into their own name?
The times seem to fit as Mary became Mary Ann when she married in 1856

If you don't have a baptism for her, can you be sure that she "became" Mary Ann when she got married?

On the other hand, was Elizabeth Martha registered just as Martha :-\

TARLETON, MARTHA       
Mother's Maiden Surname:
GRO Reference: 1837  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 214

All the others with same reference have the dash for mother's maiden name on the GRO site, so there is no significance to that.

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #20 on: Monday 01 July 24 23:14 BST (UK) »
I have found a report of the death of Ann Turton, inmate of the benevolent Institution, Wellington road, who fell down a well.

Well found.
Could it be the Benevolent Society for Reclaiming Unfortunate Females?
Attachment from Gore's Directory

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 02 July 24 04:01 BST (UK) »
Looking at the original Liverpool Mercury article (which other newspapers around the country copied), it was published on Tuesday 30 August, but says the accident occurred on "Wednesday morning last" - so 24 August.  :-\

Sorry, my mistake - she fell on the Wednesday, but "lingered" at the hospital until Sunday. Poor girl.


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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 02 July 24 08:34 BST (UK) »
The Victorians didn't mince their words when naming institutions did they?

I wonder if there are any records??
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 02 July 24 13:36 BST (UK) »
Ann Turton/Talton certainly was unfortunate having that fatal accident.

In the 1851 census we can see that Mrs Armstrong, the Matron of the Benevolent Institution in the directory is an unmarried Isabella Armstrong, 59. Piece 2188 folio 20 page 32 (more on page 33)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGPP-1KG

With her is Elizabeth Pilley, the Under Matron, and 22 female servants. I guess these servants must also be the inmates!

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 02 July 24 13:55 BST (UK) »
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I can't either and thought the coroner listing accidental killing only three days after the death possibly meant it was unlikely there was an inquest

Inquests were help very quickly after the death in those days - the day after in a lot of cases.   Some even had the body in situ.

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 02 July 24 14:01 BST (UK) »
On the other hand, was Elizabeth Martha registered just as Martha :-\

Is there another mystery? :-\
Elizabeth Tarleton, 3, in the 1841 census.

Mother Elizabeth Tarleton, age 25, buried 23 Nov 1837, St Nicholas. Abode St Andrew Street
1st January 1838, the double baptism at St Peter of William and Elizabeth Martha. Abode Oakes Street.

John Tarleton remarried to Eleanor Owens, 2 April 1838, at St. Peter.
Residence for both Duckenfield Street
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G96J-WNYJ

Then there is a burial, 19 April 1838, at St. Nicholas
Elizabeth Tarleton
Age 5 months
Abode Duckenfield Street
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ9-NDH6

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 02 July 24 16:46 BST (UK) »
would it make sense to you that someone would include the name of a sibling into their own name?
The times seem to fit as Mary became Mary Ann when she married in 1856

If you don't have a baptism for her, can you be sure that she "became" Mary Ann when she got married?

On the other hand, was Elizabeth Martha registered just as Martha :-\

I have her on the census and her sister Ann, I would have thought she wouldn't have shared the same name, would this be common do you know?
Many thanks for your input, every suggestion is appreciated


TARLETON, MARTHA       
Mother's Maiden Surname:
GRO Reference: 1837  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 214

All the others with same reference have the dash for mother's maiden name on the GRO site, so there is no significance to that.