HAINES JENNINGS iNFO

[pampoen]

This may help. Context of the passenger HAINES, Edith on the passenger list for the
Durban, 25 July 1875.

Edward Pickering, Importer, Joseph Adland, Gentleman and Wm. Easterb[ros]k, Builder - all of Durban   HAINES, Peachey   M   45               
Edward Pickering, Importer, Joseph Adland, Gentleman and Wm. Easterb[ros]k, Builder - all of Durban   HAINES, Mary   F   44               
Edward Pickering, Importer, Joseph Adland, Gentleman and Wm. Easterb[ros]k, Builder - all of Durban   HAINES, Herbert   M   22               
Edward Pickering, Importer, Joseph Adland, Gentleman and Wm. Easterb[ros]k, Builder - all of Durban   HAINES, Edith   F   16               
Edward Pickering, Importer, Joseph Adland, Gentleman and Wm. Easterb[ros]k, Builder - all of Durban
Edward Pickering, Importer, Joseph Adland, Gentleman and Wm. Easterb[ros]k, Builder - all of Durban   HAINES, Sidney   M   19       

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pampoen

May I ask nicely where you found that possible divorce record ref.


Also wondering if Thomas came back to the UK. Interesting 1921 census ref 22164 in Leeds- needs investigating.

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[Ashtone]

Also wondering if Thomas came back to the UK. Interesting 1921 census ref 22164 in Leeds

He's a retired clerk with wife Mary (born USA). This Thomas was born in Thorpe Stapleton, Yorks.

[sft456]

Well done for finfing Edith's d

You write that Thomas Richard's father was Thomas Jennings a/c to his m to Edith Haines. Who therefore was Richard of Richard & Harriet nee Gregory mentioned? I can find  no Witness on behalf of Richard at the m, but note the m extract

You suggest Thomas was b in Lincs - the Thomas b Lincs on the 1861 C, son of Thomas & Harriet was b 1845  - his m details state @1853'4

Perhaps our Thomas Richard emigrated with family to S Africa soon after he was b, hence the lack of info on the name Thomas Richard/Thomas R on any English Census. Perhaps Thomas R was b in S Africa - there is no suitable Thomas R on BMD but unlikely. Perhaps he emigrated alone, poss reason why he appears to have no Witness at his m

Perhaps Thomas was bap Thomas Richard, there is no such suitable name on BMD
   
As far as Sydney is concerned, I have drawn a blank on any further details, What I have is from Family Search in the last week - there was nothing when I researched 10 years ago. these records have since been added There appears to be no Census Records in S Africa

[Ashtone]

You suggest Thomas was b in Lincs - the Thomas b Lincs on the 1861 C, son of Thomas & Harriet was b 1845  - his m details state @1853'4

Looking at the 1861 census image Thomas jnr's age is actually 6 (not 16). It has been transcribed incorrectly. So, this family still fits with the other findings. (This is why its so important to check record images, and not rely on transcriptions).

As for Richard snr and wife Harriett -- they have been documented in above replies. Not sure why you're asking who they are. 

[sft456]

This may help. Context of the passenger HAINES, Edith on the passenger list for the
Durban, 25 July 1875.

Thanks for this, Is this a record of their emigration, does this mean they all sailed on the 25.7.1875 any more details - dep ? arr ? ships name etc
E H Pickering appears on 1871 C as a Visitor and is also a Witness at Edith's m - but was he in relation to Peachey Haines?

Why is he and Mr Adland mentioned 6 times I womder

[pampoen]

The name of the ship is Durban. This list was transcribed from a shipping list lying in the archives in South Africa. Pickering and or Adlard must have sponsored him.

I found the records at this link https://www.eggsa.org/arrivals/lists.html and then typing in Haines where it says Surname and then search. You will see Haines arriving on the Durban. Surety supplied by Mr Pickering and co.

Looks like Edith and her mom went on holiday to the UK and returned on this ship. Context of the passenger HAINES, Miss. on the passenger list for the
Garth Castle, destination: Lisbon, Cape Town, Algoa Bay, East London, Natal, Delagoa Bay.
sailed from London 23 Dec 1884
Source: Colonies & India 02 Jan 1885

Apparently mention is made in this book of Mr Pickering https://archive.org/stream/historyofolddurb00russ/historyofolddurb00russ_djvu.txt

[sft456]

As for Richard snr and wife Harriett -- they have been documented in above replies. Not sure why you're asking who they are. 
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It has been stated in the replies & confrimed in the extract that Thomas was the father of Thomas Richard, so who was Richard snr?

It was also mentioned that Thomas Richard may have remarried - is this true?
His wife Edith was living (I assume living) with her mother in 1908, (her mother d in 1908) it is also mentioned that Edith was m. If there was a divorce when was this?

I should make it clear, the only reference I have access to is Family Search, consequently my research is limited and cannoy find or check other refernces, hence my request

[Ashtone]

Sorry, I had "Richard" on the brain for some reason.
I meant Thomas in my earlier replies. All submitted details remain the same.