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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 September 24 23:04 BST (UK) »
Timothy Calnan
Birth Date    14 Oct 1858
Baptism Date    17 Oct 1858
Baptism Place    St Augustine (Augustini), Liverpool
Father     Timothei Calnan
Mother    Maria St John
Address Formby St, Rotunda [?] Place
godparents   Patricius Kohan, Maria Sheridan

Just adding the link to the register on FamilySearch.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93N-3NH7

Most aren't indexed, you have to look for the images via the catalogue.

Debra  :)


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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #10 on: Friday 27 September 24 05:49 BST (UK) »
Margaret (daughter of Timothy in 1861) has a niece with family in 1891/1901. I think this may be the daughter of Johanna

1891 - Liverpool
Margaret Neile 43 Head widow, green fruiter
John Neile   18   Son
Annie Dwyer 7 Niece

1901 - Liverpool
Margt Neile 54 Head, Liverpool, fruit, ? own a/c
John Neile 28 Son, Liverpool
Annie Dwyer   17   Niece, Manchester

Just for info on mmn
NEILL, JOHN    mmn   CALLAN 
GRO Reference: 1872  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 53

Marriage for Annie - image online gives her father as John
Name   Annie Dwyer
Marriage Age   21
Birth Year   abt 1883
Marriage Date   22 May 1904
Marriage Place   Everton, St Ambrose, Lancashire, England
Father   John Dwyer, mariner
Spouse   Alfred Edwards, van driver age 24

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Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #11 on: Friday 27 September 24 05:56 BST (UK) »
Possible - you would need certs to confirm. Looks like David & Janet married each other on census.

Marriages Mar Q 1871   
Callon    Johanna        W. Derby    8b   625    
Dwyer    John        W. Derby    8b   625    

Fleming    David        W. Derby    8b   625    
McWilliam    Janet        W. Derby    8b   625    

1871 - Liverpool. Image is Dwyer. Another has corrected surname

Thomas Durger 34 Head
Catherine Durger 27 Wife
Ellen Durger 7 Daughter
James Durger 2 Son
John Durger 25 married Nephew, Liverpool
Johanna Durger 20 married Mother (image is visitor)
, Liverpool
& Servants

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Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #12 on: Friday 27 September 24 06:05 BST (UK) »
Then there is this marriage

Marriages Mar Q 1878  With 2 others
CATON    Michael        Liverpool    8b   288    
DWYER    Johanna        Liverpool    8b   288    

1881 - Liverpool
Martin Flinn 35 Head, Ireland
Ann Flinn 38 Wife, Liverpool
Johanna Flinn 9 Daughter
Thomas Flinn 7 Son
William Flinn 2 Son
Walter Murphy 9 Nephew
Johanna Caton   28, sister in law, fruit saleswoman, Liverpool

Added: birth reg for nephew Walter

MURPHY, WALTER    mmn   CALNAN 
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 196

Possible parents going by RC baptism for Walter

Marriages Jun Q 1871   2 others on page
CALNAN    Eliza        W. Derby    8b   760    
Murphy    James        W. Derby    8b   760

Name   Walter Murphy
Age   0
Birth Date   27 Jul 1871
Baptism Date   14 Sep 1871
Baptism Place   St Joseph's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England   
Father Jacobus Murphy
Mother   Elizabetha Callan
Godparent or sponsor - Maria Neil
   
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #13 on: Friday 27 September 24 06:08 BST (UK) »
Marriage for Ann - image online. Sister of Johanna in above 1881

Name   Ann Callan
Marriage Age   Full Age
Marriage Date   11 Jan 1864
Marriage Place   Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England
Father   Smithy Callan (image is Timothy) occ. stevedore
Spouse   Martin Flinn
Witness: Robert Hall - Mary Callan

Checked a few Flinn/Flynn births..looks like the surname is Callan/Callon or varient
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #14 on: Friday 27 September 24 06:12 BST (UK) »
Not finding a birth for Annie Dwyer circa 1883 that fits.  But there is this birth registration.

Digital certs you can download for £3.00 on GRO if interested.

CATON, ANNIE  mmn CALLON 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 159

1901 has her birth in Manchester. Would fit with birthdate in 1939 register, with her family.

Added: possible death of mother.

Deaths Jun Q 1886 
Catton Johannah   age 34    Liverpool 8b   22

Likely why Margaret raised her from about age 3 and confusion regarding father?

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #15 on: Friday 27 September 24 13:06 BST (UK) »
Believe this is John, age is out, but looks likely him.

Marriage - image online
Name   John Callan
Marriage Age   25
Birth Year   abt 1851
Marriage Date   17 Jan 1876
Marriage Place   Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father   Timothy Callan occ. stevedore
Spouse   Susanna Murphy

1881-  2 Court 1 Grosvenor St, Liverpool

John Callon   30   Head, dock lab, liverpool
Susannah Callon 30 Wife
Mary C. Callon 9 Daughter

Death
Name   John Callon - address Grosvenor St
Death Age   32
Birth Date   abt 1851
Death Date   1883
Burial Date   23 Dec 1883
Burial Place   Ford Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Wife Susan is a widow in 1891/1901/1911 her death age gives b 1847 so her age is likely out also.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mystery: Timothy Calnon/Calnan
« Reply #16 on: Friday 27 September 24 15:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all of your help. I honestly didn't expect to receive so much information! I'm looking forward to sitting down and piecing it all together!