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Re: Birom family of Stratton
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 September 24 08:44 BST (UK) »
Susan Birom was described as 'insane' in the 1861 Census. This newspaper clipping from 1836 goes some way to explaining why she was living with Samuel Salter in 1841 and subsequently his son, Robert Salter....
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Birom family of Stratton
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 September 24 10:43 BST (UK) »
John Martin BIROM and Elizabeth Crosley THARPE
married 5 June 1845, by licence
at St Mark's, Kennington Park Road, Lambeth

He was (of course) a surgeon at the time.

He stated that his father was called JOHN BIROM
but gave no information about his father's 'rank or profession' so we don't know whether JMB's father was alive at the time, or what his occupation was.

Susan Hirom was supposedly a widow as early as 1820 but did not name the father of her two sons when they were baptised.

It remains to be seen whether 'John Birom' was JMB's father.

JMB may have been illegitimate and may therefore have invented a name for his father in 1845.

NB1: I had difficulty in tracking down the image of the marriage record on Ancestry because the surname had been indexed as BIRON.

NB2: And yes, JMB was actually born in Emsworth, Hampshire. He gave that as his birthplace in a couple of Census records.
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Re: Birom family of Stratton
« Reply #11 on: Monday 30 September 24 16:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the help. I will check Emsworth, how strange that he was baptised twice in very different places.
I will also get Samuel Salter's will, thanks again.
There are so many lies in Susan's life, John Martin Birom was her son and yet on the probate document it says she had no children - and he is teh creditor!
The possibility of Susan being a Salter hadn't occurred to me - my head is swimming
Thanks for the confirmation about Emsworth as John M Birom's POB, I can't find any records but clearly need to hunt more.
Thank you so much to everyone, this is a lot to being going on with and hopefully will clear up a fee mysteries
Alison

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Re: Birom family of Stratton
« Reply #12 on: Monday 30 September 24 22:23 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this is linked

William Biron
Baptism    29 Mar 1818, Warblington, Hampshire
Father    William Biron, tailor
Mother    Susan Biron
Residence  Emsworth

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Re: Birom family of Stratton
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 October 24 08:13 BST (UK) »
Wow! This is amazing, thank you so much, it has to be her!!!!

Brilliant
Alison
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