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Offline Neale1961

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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 November 24 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Mary Fletcher/ Hunter last seen in the 1901 census living with her son David Hunter in St Cuthberts Edinburgh.

Her death .......
FLETCHER, MARY   / HUNTER, Mary
age 73
mother - BROOMFIELD
1906
685 / 5 / 684
Newington

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 November 24 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Not certain about the bits between ??

Page 6
1856, Marriages in the Parish of Slamanan  in the County of Stirling.
Columns
•   No: 11.
•   When, where and how married: On the thirteenth day of Decr 1856 at Slamanan. Marriage after Banns ?was solemnized? between us according to the ?rites?  of the free Church of Scotland.
•   Signature of Parties:  Signed: James Hunter,  Signed Mary Fletcher
•   Age: 43, 33
•   Residence:  ??, ??
•   Rank, Profession, Condition (whether Bachelor or Widower, Spinster or Widow)
Relationship of Parties (if any):   ? eer?  Bachelor, Spinster.
•   Name, Surname, Rank or Profession of Father
Name and Maiden Name of Mother:
James Hunter, Carter, ?? Hunter, maiden Name ??
John Fletcher ??, Mary Fletcher maiden name ??
•   If a regular marriage, signatures of officiating Minister and witnesses:
Signed William ?? Minister free church Slamanan. Signed ?? Hunter witness. ?? ?Micham? witness.
•   If irregular, date of extract sentence of conviction, or decree of declarator and in what court pronounced:
The above marriage was registered by me at Slamanan, on the Seventeenth day of Decr 1856 Robert ?Main? registrar.

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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 November 24 05:17 GMT (UK) »
Occupation of the groom may say “manager”
1851 census James Hunter
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14ab7af4040b9d6ea9f7f8/james-hunter-1851-fife-st-andrws-st-l-nards-1814-?locale=en


Witnesses at the marriage
Archibald Hunter (I agree with reply #2)
Euphemia ? (Cannot make it out. Might it be the groom's sister?)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 November 24 05:19 GMT (UK) »
The groom’s parents are named as James HUNTER (carter) and Euphemia GATHERUM
I could not see a marriage for them, but there are these baptisms for their children.

James HUNTER and Euphemia GUTHREME   / GATHERUM
Children –
Margaret Hunter 1810 - Newburgh (Fife)
James Hunter 1812 - Markinch
Euphemia Hunter 1815 - Largo
John McVicar Hunter 1820 - Largo
Charles 1822 Hunter - Largo

The surname “Gatherum” is not very common, but it does appear with many crazy spelling variations in the records.

Possible baptism record for Euphemia
29/06/1788 in Largo
Euphemia GATHERIME (note spelling)
daughter of John GATHERIME and Margaret BRAND [married 1782 in Largo]
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 November 24 05:20 GMT (UK) »
Occupation of the groom may say “manager”
1851 census James Hunter
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14ab7af4040b9d6ea9f7f8/james-hunter-1851-fife-st-andrws-st-l-nards-1814-?locale=en


Witnesses at the marriage
Archibald Hunter (I agree with reply #2)
Euphemia ? (Cannot make it out. Might it be the groom's sister?)

I thought possibly the groom’s sister (given name of his mother) but I can’t find a marriage that seems to give a surname that could be that.

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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 November 24 05:37 GMT (UK) »
I thought possibly the groom’s sister (given name of his mother) but I can’t find a marriage that seems to give a surname that could be that.
I have had the same difficulty.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 03 November 24 07:33 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant, thanks for everyone's help.
The mother's maiden name is Broomfield. I was able to pick it up her death certificate on Scotland's people, although her age was wrong by 10 years, however correct on her burial documentation.
So much other information given as well, very grateful.
I have been struggling with the the various spellings of Gatherum as well.
From the various census, Mary and James were often apart and I was wondering how common this was in the mining community. My ancestors were agricultural labourers/crofters in North East in Aberdeenshire/Banffshire and seemed to stay relatively fixed to the area and together.
Thanks
Andy

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Re: Struggling to Read a marriage certificate
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 03 November 24 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Re the 1826 marriage found by Neale, a transcript has John Fletcher's occupation as Private 45th regiment. Mary Bloomfield's father is named as James Bloomfield, a Baker. Residence of both is College.

William

Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)