1939 Census - later change of surnames

[alan o]

My experience with the register is that the dates recorded do not always mean that was the date of marriage, but when the NHS became aware of the name change. I could be wrong.

SS

This has been my experience too.

Tony.

Thanks.  The 1954 Lizzie G is indeed the best fit.  That is also how she is recorded on the 1921 census.

[alan o]

Thank you all.  Lizzie G Owen was one of 3 sisters.  I was told by my grandfather that one was seriously religious (Edith Owen 1905) and another married late.  The eldest sister was Harriet Ann Owen (born Jan 1889 in Cwmbach Aberdare) who was a school teacher.

I have been looking without success for evidence of their marraiges but as it turns out the 'married late' may well have been Lizzie remarrying.

Thank you all.

[softly softly]

Possibly Harriet Ann. She was still single in 1921 and she was an elementary school teacher. Believe she married Thomas J Hay in 1936 (she would have been aged 46ish. Her dob 29.12.1888, birth registered mq 1889

OWEN, HARRIET       mmn RICHARDS 
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 571

Possible death

Harriet A Hay
abt 1889
Jul 1965
Jul-Aug-Sep
Pontypridd
Glamorganshire

SS

[softly softly]

OWEN, EDITH       RICHARDS 
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 853

OWENS, LIZZIE  GWEN     RICHARDS 
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 730

To ascertain exact dobs their gro digital images are available £3 each.

This may well help with regard to Edith in 1939 if still alive.

SS

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Richard E Crocker and wife are living next door to Thomas and Harriet A Hay in Cefnpennar Road in the 1950s and 60s

[softly softly]

Richard E Crocker and wife are living next door to Thomas and Harriet A Hay in Cefnpennar Road in the 1950s and 60s

Well found Mabel Bagshawe

SS

[alan o]

OWEN, EDITH       RICHARDS 
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 853

OWENS, LIZZIE  GWEN     RICHARDS 
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 730

To ascertain exact dobs their gro digital images are available £3 each.

This may well help with regard to Edith in 1939 if still alive.

SS

Edith is mentioned in the Aberdare Leader newspaper in 1942 as a member of her church congregation and making addresses as part of her work with the sisterhood.  She wrote to the same newspaper about theological matters in 1939 which gives her address as Sion Terrace in Aberdare.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Edith is mentioned in the Aberdare Leader newspaper in 1942 as a member of her church congregation and making addresses as part of her work with the sisterhood.  She wrote to the same newspaper about theological matters in 1939 which gives her address as Sion Terrace in Aberdare.

She's at that address until 1939 on electoral registers. Have found her on the 1939 register - bit of a challenge as she's listed just as Edith and with only the house number on Ancestry.

that points to another late marriage

Q1 1943   
Pontypridd Vol 11a p882
Drew    David C    [spouse Owen]
Evans    Eiddwen B   
Owen    Edith    [spouse Drew]
Wood    Byram   

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I can see David and Edith together in Cynon Terrace, Llwydcoed up to 1967 on electoral registers.

David dies in 1978, with an address in Norton, Mumbles. I've been having difficulty with a death for Edith

This one caught my eye as the dob matches 1939

Edith Owen Allanson
Birth Date    4 Apr 1905
Registration Date    Feb 1991
Swansea Vol 27 p2131

Marriages Q4 1981
YORK   Vol 2 p1967   
ALLANSON    GEORGE H    DREW      
DREW    EDITH O    ALLANSON    YORK    2   1967

Probate register confirms its our Edith - her address is the same as for David Charles Drew's death