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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 January 25 13:52 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of Mary Finan , 63 yrs of Cloonsuck in 1907 but she is a widow. She died in the workhouse so no informant’s name to help.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05536/4551909.pdf
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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:03 GMT (UK) »
If you check those trees, they are combining  records of Martin Finan - spouse Anne Finan and Martin Finan and Mary Farrell.
People often just find a record and use it with no corroborative evidence.
I haven’t seen Mary referred to as Mary Ann Farrell.

If you look at 1901 census, there are two MF’s in Cloonsuck. There is one with daughter in law Mary who is likely to be the one who reports the deaths of Martin and Ann.

So I take it then I've made a mistake

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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:06 GMT (UK) »

If you look at 1901 census, there are two MF’s in Cloonsuck. There is one with daughter in law Mary who is likely to be the one who reports the deaths of Martin and Ann.


Anne Finan died 16 January 1914 at Cloonsuck. Again the informant was her daughter-in-law Mary Finan (nee Cunniff).   #248
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05308/4476476.pdf

At reply #1, heywood posted the scored-out 1911 census (which includes three grandchildren).


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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:27 GMT (UK) »
I am looking at a published tree which has Mary Anne Farrell as you report.
Several children are listed to Martin and Mary Anne.

Jane - 1864 - baptism Martin and Mary Farrel
Patrick - 1865 I can’t see this but 1866 - Martin and Ann Finan
Thomas - 1866 - Martin and Mary Farrel
Bridget - 1869- Martin and Mary Farrel
Michael - 1870 - Martin and Mary Farrel
Dominick - 1872 - parents Martin and Ann Finan
Martin - 1873 - Martin and Mary Farrel
John - 1875 - Martin and Mary Farrel
Edward - 1880 - there is Edward b 1881 - Martin and Mary Farrell
Kate - 1880 - can’t see a birth yet but in 1901 is with Martin and Ann

Both 1901 censuses seem to be cited in the tree -

In 1911, Ann Finan states 6 children born and still alive


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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #13 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Re the daughter Kate, there is a birth and baptism 1875 fir Catherine, daughter of Martin and Ann Finan.

There are several baptisms to parents Martn Finan and Ann Finan in Kilkeevan parush.
Patrick, Mary, Michael, Dominick and Catherine.
5 of the 6?
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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 06 January 25 15:06 GMT (UK) »

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Re the daughter Kate, there is a birth and baptism 1875 fir Catherine, daughter of Martin and Ann Finan.

Born 22 June at Cloonsuck.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03087/2131520.pdf


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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #15 on: Monday 06 January 25 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi KG,
I didn’t post the births/baptisms  to Martin Finan and his spouse Ann Finan as they are  not Farrel/Farrell births.
Robert might want to verify them though as some (only some) of the tree records refer to that couple and not Mary Farrel.
As i said they are combined records - even citing the 1864 marriage of Martin Finan and Anne Finan as the Finan/Farrell marriage. It does not seem to have been verified.
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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #16 on: Monday 06 January 25 15:38 GMT (UK) »

So I take it then I've made a mistake

Only the error of accepting others mistakes. We have all done it. It is just best to try to check out what has been posted.
I have listed the various folk for you to verify. It is so much better now with Irish records to check, although not all are available.
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Re: Finan Family
« Reply #17 on: Monday 06 January 25 15:39 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, heywood  :)

We'll await Robert's comments.

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