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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkeston
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 25 January 25 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Yes - very sad really

As your gran is not with the Radfords on the 1939 register something must have happened after September 1939 to cause the adoption. 

That type of info will probably be in her adoption papers.  If either you or another family member have Power of Attorney you can apply to Social Services for access to her adoption records
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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkeston
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 25 January 25 22:52 GMT (UK) »
all i was ever told was she was mistreated ,n this roots chat is just amazing , iam aware alot of my family on my grandmas side ,the ones ones iam talking about probably arnt with us now , its the fact ive found so many on my grandads side i just had to try anything , theres half a family out there , i not far from ilkeston either ,i can walk there , it makes it so much harder just not knowing , thanks again , gave me so much more already

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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkeston
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 25 January 25 23:08 GMT (UK) »
If you are still in the area, it looks like Ilkeston Library has a useful local studies section including some newspapers for the period:
https://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/local-studies/local-studies-libraries/local-libraries/ilkeston/local-studies-at-ilkeston-library.aspx


A lot could have happened between 1939 register and the end of WWII, it's hard to say. Injury, sickness, her father being away at war and her mother having not enough financial support, etc.

While Ilkeston itself was not a major target of the Blitz, there was a bombing of some houses during an attack on Stanton Ironworks.
https://www.ilkestonhistory.org.uk/2024/03/01/wartime-childhood-memories/

Based on birthdate, these records are probably for her father. A bit unusual of a move to go into merchant marine from Ilkeston I would think, but it's possible he had some technical skills (from working in the ironworks or other local industries) that he was recruited on, rather than as a sailor.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9631256
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4318315


There are some later children in Basford district who I wasn't sure are theirs or not because in 1946 another Moorley/Walker couple marry in Basford
Doris Moorley, born 1942, died 1943.
A girl born 1947, in Basford district (probably the daughter of the 1946 marriage)

There is also a child born 1940, Moorley mother's maiden name Pritchard, who might be part of the family.


I think Thomas's family are the couple Moorley/Glenn (there are two Thomas Henrys of a very similar age!)
They are indexed as "Moodey" in 1921.

He had siblings, but only one appears to have left descendants, so if you do DNA you might find "Hollands" but not Moorleys. 

Annie May, born 1910, married a Holland and had four children, of whom three survived to marry.
George William, born 1914 died 1929
Frederick Arthur, born 1917 and died 1946
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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkeston
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 25 January 25 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
 
You can only see part of the redacted entry on the 1939 Register on Ancestry, it does not show on  Findmypast.

You can also see a birth date  2? May 39, so does look as if it may be your G. Mother.
Also living at the same address is a Thomas Walker born 22 Feb 1878, a widow could this possibly be your Mothers Grandfather?

Thomas is on the 1891 Census Ilkeston with his Parents William & Lucy Walker living at 21 Stanton Road.  Also on 1881 census Ilkeston, but William is not at home.

If you do not have access to Ancestry, try your local library.



 
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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkeston
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 January 25 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
 
You can only see part of the redacted entry on the 1939 Register on Ancestry,

My ancestry image is completely redacted.
Would you please link to what you are looking at.

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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkest
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 26 January 25 00:32 GMT (UK) »
On second page of entry there is a redacted entry.  it doesn’t show the child's name but it does show her subsequent married name which is that of the posters grandmother

See my edit on my reply 7
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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 26 January 25 00:41 GMT (UK) »
Yes, i read that, and am frustrated I cannot see that. So wanted the link so I could see how I was going wrong
I looked at book 2 age 7 as per the red writing. It is equally solidly redacted on my view,
Not a glimpse of anything round the edges at all


It’s OK, found it,  had assumed both children were on the first page.

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 26 January 25 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the replies again yes I do have ancestry it's where I've done my gran weather tree f9r the last 2 years so I will look at the newspaper links as well n see what I can find , this is very exciting for me n my family , 

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Re: Adoption may 1939 ilkeston
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 26 January 25 11:45 GMT (UK) »
My name is Kelly Louise hicklin by the way  , my grandma is my mother's mum