1861 & 71 census - VANSTONEs

[arno]

Hi All

Could SKS try and find my VANSTONE family on the 1861 or 71 census.

In 1881  I have John VANSTONE aged 50 born Plymouth with wife
                         Mary aged 48 born Stonehouse

John was a plumber H M Dockyard.

Can't find their son John Francis born 1859 in Devonport on 1881 census?
Hoping he will turn up with his parents on 1861 / 71 census.

Any help much would be much appreciated.

Arno.

[Nessie]

1871 Rg9/2139/76/61

They appear to be on their own at 101 Albert Rd Devonport

John Vanstone head age 40 plumber ?? born Plymouth

Mary wife age 38 born Stonehouse.

[arno]

Nessie
Many thanks for your info.

I just wonder if I have the correct wife for John VANSTONE off the 1881 census?

The only info I'm sure of comes from the marriage cert of

John Francis VANSTONE 30 Sick Berth Steward at 69 Princes St,
 father John Richard VANSTONE a Dockyardman 
                         ----   married      ---
Alice Maude Edith HILL 22  ,same address ,
father John George HILL an Engineer

Married at the Parish Church St. Pauls Devonport on 4th October 1888.

Also on the 1901 Census - John F.       42 born in Devonport and
                                           Alice M. E.  34 born in Tavistock.

Could you just check on the census for a John Francis VANSTONE b1859
                           with a father John Richard VANSTONE b1831 ??

Somewhere in Devon?

John was also known as Francis !!

Many thanks Arno

[allibaker]

living at drekwell? street,st aubyn,stoke damerell in 1871-
john.r vanstone a 51yr old labourer on dockyards born
wife emma 49yrs born -
children
elizabeth.a 17yrs housemaid
john.h?f? 12yr old scholor
susannah 7yrs scholor.
all born devonport,devon

thinking your mary could be a second wife?

[allibaker]

thought these might be of some use to you ?
Marriages Mar 1841
VANSTONE  John Richard     Stoke Damerel  9 451
RATTENBURY  Emma Louisa     Stoke Damerel  9 451

Births Sep 1858
Vanstone  John F     Stoke Damerel  5b 273

Births Mar 1864
VANSTONE  Susannah Georgina     Stoke D  5b 319

posible marriage for elizabeth -
Marriages Sep 1875-Vanstone  Elizabeth Ann     Crediton  5b 702

[allibaker]

living in ker street,stoke damerell in 1841 -
john vanstone 20yrs born in county
emma 20yrs also born in county
regards
alli

[allibaker]

found this in 1861-
john francis seems to be down as francis j lol
living at clarence lane stoke damerel
richard.j vanstone a 41yr old sawyer
emma.l 39yr old wife
frederick.w 14yr old scholor
adalaide.m 8yrs
francis.j 2yrs
regards
alli

[arno]

Hi Alli

Many thanks for all the info.

I have recieved some census information from Tricia. Can I just check a few differences between the 2 lots of info?

1871 census - I have living at 16 DOCKWALL??
                       SAWYER Dockyard ??
            also - Where is  Adelaide M VANSTONE b1854 ??
                       Elizabeth A b1844 not aged 17  ??

1861 census - I have John R - not Richard J VANSTONE b1820  ??

What do you think ? Which is correct ?

Regards Arno

[krisesjoint]

Hi Arno...... Has this problem been resolved? ........Kris