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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 17 February 25 14:03 GMT (UK) »
You're certainly not the first to have come across a bigamist from Liverpool. -- No relation to yours, but my GGF apparently was from Liverpool, and was a fisherman who married my GGM in Lowestoft.  He deserted my GGM and her children after around 17 years, had a warrant issued for his arrest, and was subsequently arrested and convicted of bigamy in Dundee!  He has proved to be an elusive character with no verifiable records of either his birth or death.
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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 17 February 25 14:06 GMT (UK) »
 I've just found a tree for Charlotte's family but it does not follow her.
  Father John died 1823
 Mother was Sarah Gillard and they married in 1803.
 Tree has sibling details.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 17 February 25 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Alstark, this one now doesn’t seem to be a bigamist as we have found the two Williams.
Hopefully, we are gathering contrary evidence to the other speculations also.
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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 17 February 25 14:29 GMT (UK) »
I've found a William Eden living in Rupert Street Liverpool in 1841.

  HO 107/560/11 folio 7 page 7.
 Age given as 25 and a gilder.

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 17 February 25 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Debra found the same one in reply #6.
Possibly the one from Wigan?
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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 17 February 25 14:55 GMT (UK) »
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Charlotte had been raped when she was 14
; I've seen several births / children where the mother was in her teens for her first child in my time perusing the census'.  In my family a lot of the time when I count the months betweenn the first baby and the marriage it adds up to less than 9 or even where my great grandparents had their first child three months before marrying.

Many girls of that age nowadays are active in that way with pregnancy resulting on occasion - I'm pretty sure there were in the 19th century as well.   

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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 17 February 25 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Debra found the same one in reply #6.
Possibly the one from Wigan?

  Missed that sorry, reading too quickly.
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 17 February 25 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Oh it all adds to the story doesn't it.

If what we have found is the right family , according  to that marriage, Charlotte had a daughter, Sarah.
I can't see them in 1861.
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Re: Bigamy? Faked death? Amazing coincidence? Something else?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 17 February 25 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps one of these birth registrations is incorrect and should be 'Thomas' instead of William.

EDEN, WILLIAM
Mother's maiden surname: SANDELL     
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 456

EDEN, WILLIAM
Mother's maiden surname: SUNDELL     
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 493

Debra  :)

Rather than ‘Thomas’, I wonder if the second birth here is Charles - born abt 1846.
William b 1844 shows in later censuses.
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