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Offline Glen in Tinsel Kni

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #36 on: Monday 10 March 25 12:47 GMT (UK) »

The “DNA Routing” for want of a better descriptor, that you describe is a great feature to add.

Up until now I only add a DNA Helix image as the matches profile image but I’ll create custom DNA Helix images to add.

Many thanks for posting

This hopefully is still clear enough to illustrate the principle with more branches opened up. I did the usual grouping then looked at protools when it came along but I still couldn't visualise it all. I would never have realised matches are spread over 4 generations just looking at match lists and protools results especially as the big cluster are USA and the two lone female matches on the right are UK.  There's obvious gaps in my research and avenues to explore for target tests, given this is a floating branch full of mystery matches to me it has huge potential down the line. Even if I let my subs lapse it's there to see unless/until Ancestry decide viewing our own trees goes behind a paywall

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #37 on: Monday 10 March 25 15:14 GMT (UK) »

The “DNA Routing” for want of a better descriptor, that you describe is a great feature to add.

Up until now I only add a DNA Helix image as the matches profile image but I’ll create custom DNA Helix images to add.

Many thanks for posting

This hopefully is still clear enough to illustrate the principle with more branches opened up. I did the usual grouping then looked at protools when it came along but I still couldn't visualise it all. I would never have realised matches are spread over 4 generations just looking at match lists and protools results especially as the big cluster are USA and the two lone female matches on the right are UK.  There's obvious gaps in my research and avenues to explore for target tests, given this is a floating branch full of mystery matches to me it has huge potential down the line. Even if I let my subs lapse it's there to see unless/until Ancestry decide viewing our own trees goes behind a paywall

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I would only include a “DNA Profile” image where there is a DNA test that links me to a specific individual.

In what was my floating tree there were two brothers and one sister who I would be related to and as it turns out the sister is my half sister and one of the brothers should be my half Brother.  But the other brothers son did respond to a message and in the telephone conversation we had he told me that his Dad was adopted and hence had no blood ties with the sister and brother he knew when growing up.  Hence I will not assume DNA matching unless directly validated by an actual DNA test.

Off now to Photoshop my options.

BTW, if you do decide to cease subscribing to Ancestry then I suggest you but either Roots Magic or Family Tree Maker.  With both of these you can download your full Ancestry Family Tree, not using a Gedcom.  The download will include all media and profile images.  Plus with Roots Magic the error checking tools are light years better than the rubbish Tree Checker in Pro Tools.  As it is Pro Tools duplicates is not fit for purpose.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #38 on: Monday 10 March 25 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Some of the 'features' Ancestry and MH conjure up make it look like a two horse race to the bottom of the pile at times. It's more 'click and collect' than actual genealogy. If I want a cheap chinese knock off tree I'll look on ebay nearer to christmas  ;D

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #39 on: Monday 17 March 25 12:15 GMT (UK) »
DNA matches have the large coloured dna coil profile image  and are lower part of the image, gold for non Ancestry matches, blue for male Ancestry matches, Pink for female Ancestry matches (none shown in this example).

Their ancestors have a small gold dna coil in the top left of their profile picture, I simply click anyone with that gold symbol and can trace them down to a dna match. I could open up more lines (descendants of the people in the blue squares in the image),and in this case it would reveal almost 30 dna matches but for clarity I've just shown a couple of lines.

It's not perfect but it's a way to beat the 'add dna matches of' thing that Ancestry offer but that only works with Thrulines and needs a worldwide sub .

Hi Glen, trying to follow this layout as have a lot of Australian dna matches related to one person ( a 1c1r of mine) who went to Australia in 1911, changed his name, married and had 7 known children but also a fair few more scattered around I think.  I have added them all as floating matches, with cM value as suffix, but I would like to change the profile image in some way, as you were suggesting with the gold dna coil.

Can you tell me how I amend the profile image please as couldn't find it on Ancestry?

Thanks, Pheno
Austin/Austen - Sussex & London
Bond - Berkshire & London
Bishop - Sussex & Kent
Holland - Essex
Nevitt - Cheshire & Staffordshire
Wray - Yorkshire


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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #40 on: Monday 17 March 25 14:04 GMT (UK) »
DNA matches have the large coloured dna coil profile image  and are lower part of the image, gold for non Ancestry matches, blue for male Ancestry matches, Pink for female Ancestry matches (none shown in this example).

Their ancestors have a small gold dna coil in the top left of their profile picture, I simply click anyone with that gold symbol and can trace them down to a dna match. I could open up more lines (descendants of the people in the blue squares in the image),and in this case it would reveal almost 30 dna matches but for clarity I've just shown a couple of lines.

It's not perfect but it's a way to beat the 'add dna matches of' thing that Ancestry offer but that only works with Thrulines and needs a worldwide sub .

Hi Glen, trying to follow this layout as have a lot of Australian dna matches related to one person ( a 1c1r of mine) who went to Australia in 1911, changed his name, married and had 7 known children but also a fair few more scattered around I think.  I have added them all as floating matches, with cM value as suffix, but I would like to change the profile image in some way, as you were suggesting with the gold dna coil.

Can you tell me how I amend the profile image please as couldn't find it on Ancestry?

Thanks, Pheno

I used a simple image editing programme but I'll add the images here on this reply and the next, anyone who wishes to use them is more than welcome to, a simple right click and 'save as' should do the trick.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #41 on: Monday 17 March 25 14:05 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #42 on: Monday 17 March 25 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much indeed - will have a go.

Pheno
Austin/Austen - Sussex & London
Bond - Berkshire & London
Bishop - Sussex & Kent
Holland - Essex
Nevitt - Cheshire & Staffordshire
Wray - Yorkshire

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #43 on: Monday 17 March 25 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Glen.

I made my own Pink and Blue DNA jpg’s and added them to my Tree over the weekend.

Where there is an Image of a person in the tree there is now a small version of the Pink and Blue DNA jpg’s layered into the top right as per below.

It is a very useful function to add and it makes it very easy to navigate from the MRCA to a DNA Match or vica versa.

I did toy with adding the cM value with the shared Match but decided against it.


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Re: Ancestry Thrulines doesn't show all relatives
« Reply #44 on: Monday 17 March 25 18:50 GMT (UK) »


I did toy with adding the cM value with the shared Match but decided against it.

Let me guess;  the scale of work needed for individual images hit home? Do not ask how I came to this conclusion  ;D