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Re: Death record?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 February 25 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Have you viewed the death for Margaret to rule it out mothers maiden name could be wrong perhaps the person  who registered the death was unsure .I would be inclined to take a chance

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Here is the link. If thedesman1 wants to order the certificate.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/68055892967c20d86d0a40

Link above might or might not work. But it is on Scotland's people website https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Death certificate can be viewed for 6 credits

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Re: Death record?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 February 25 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Here is the link. If thedesman1 wants to order the certificate.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/68055892967c20d86d0a40
That link won't work.

See screenshot.

The fact that the death is listed under only one surname can mean one of two things.

First, it could mean that this Margaret Raeburn was unmarried.

Second, it could mean that the person who registered the death did not know what her father's name was, and if they didn't know that, how reliable is the information about her mother's maiden surname.

There's really no alternative to looking at the certificate. It costs less than a cup of coffee to view itr online - there is no need to order the certificate.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Death record?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 February 25 19:53 GMT (UK) »
There is a death for a Margaret Nelson 1930 Bridgeton age 76 years
Mothers maiden name Duncan no other name

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Ref 644/1/292

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Re: Death record?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 February 25 19:57 GMT (UK) »
There is a death for a Margaret Nelson 1930 Bridgeton age 76 years
Mothers maiden name Duncan no other name

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Ref 644/1/292

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That sounds more likely... Nelson could be a misspelling of Neilson.
Eardley / Rigby (Shropshire)
Wilkinson / Watkin (Lancashire/Newcastle)
Marshall / Turner (North Shields)
Hall / Reay (North/South Shields)
Marr / Redfearn (Durham)
Morland / Stark (Durham/Yorkshire)
Nunn / Schofield (Durham)
Simpson / Hill (Durham/London)


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Re: Death record?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 February 25 20:08 GMT (UK) »
I see that in the 1881 census, there's a household in Blantyre containing William Raeburn, 28; wife Margaret, 27; daughters Helen, Jane and Jessie; brother-in-law William Nelson, 21 and sister-in-law sister-in-law Helen Nelson, 16.

These siblings are a match for the family of Robert Neilson and Helen Duncan
Janet, 4 November 1855, Cambusnethan
Walter, 14 December 1857, Bothwell
William, 1 January 1860, Cambusnethan
James Duncan, 24 January 1862, Cambusnethan
Robert, 3 January 1864, Rutherglen, died 1865
Helen, 5 February 1866, Rutherglen
Robert, born 17 April 1869, Rutherglen, died 1870
Take a look at Janet's birth certificate. It will tell you, among other things, how many children Robert N and Helen D had had before the start of civil registration in 1855. It will also tell you where Robert and Helen were born and how old they were.

The 1871 census lists in Rutherglen Robert Neilson, widower, 38 and children Janet, Walter, William, James and Helen.

The 1861 lists Robert Neilson, 30; wife Helen, 26; and children Margaret, 7, Janet, 5; Walter, 3 and William, 1.

Helen Neilson or Duncan, 34, died in Rutherglen in  1870, mother's maiden surname Sommerville.

Robert Neilson, mother's surname Forsyth, died in Blantyre in 1901 aged 72. He may or may not be Margaret's father; his death certificate will clarify that.

In 1911 Margaret Raeburn, 57, is in a household in Glasgow Bridgeton with Jeanie Raeburn, 25, and in 1921 she is in a household with Adam Raeburn, 37.


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Re: Death record?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 28 February 25 20:12 GMT (UK) »
That sounds more likely... Nelson could be a misspelling of Neilson.
Not a misspelling, just a spelling variant.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Death record?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 28 February 25 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all, great guidance and information.  I purchased the Scotland's People record for Margaret Raeburn, age 76 (m.s. McBride) however I discovered that none of the 3 individuals named on the certificate was Margaret Raeburn - it appears the scanned image does not actually match the name in the header so I've reported the issue to the National Records of Scotland office - hopefully they can locate the correct certificate and re-scan the image.  Usually they handle requests quite promptly.

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Re: Death record?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 March 25 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, I managed to resolve the mystery of the missing record. Register House in Edinburgh acknowledged the error in their transcript and have located and uploaded the correct death certificate to Scotland's People (see attached).

It transpires that Margaret Raeburn (nee Neilson) died on 26/03/1930 from involvement in motor accident. Register House also provided me with findings of the inquest that sadly revealed she was knocked down by a motor van. It appears the incident happened between 1-2 months before her death.

Does anyone have access to the newspaper records?  If possible I would like to find out please if the incident was reported in any local news?

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Re: Death record?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 15 March 25 08:01 GMT (UK) »
You can find the Glasgow Herald and Evening Times newspapers on Google Newspaper Archive FoC. Unfortunately though, there is no great search function and you have to search by going to the specific date of paper you are looking for and then "reading" the paper.
Tannahill:  Ayrshire, Renfrewshire
Mulgrew/Milgrew:  Glasgow
Canning: Renfrewshire