John and Mary Campbell, nee Smith, Convicts in NSW

[hanes teulu]

I can see 3 Mary Smiths arriving Oct 12 1812 on the Minstrel. All were tried/convicted at the Old Bailey - April 1811 (age 40- YoB 1771), May 1811 (age 28 - YoB 1783) and Sep 1811 (age 18 - YoB 1793).

The 1828 Census provides a YoB of 1786. Ages are always suspect but the Mary convicted Apr 1811 was in cahoots with a Mary Powell - age 26 YoB 1785. Mary Powell was also on the Minstrel and one of the records has them bracketed together.

You can read their trial here -
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/record/t18110403-55?text=smith

A possible for the Mary that Married JC?   

[hanes teulu]

I've been chasing Mary Smith pre. transportation. You'll appreciate the nightmare of chasing such a name with little or nothing to support it.
The 1783 birth looks promising. But the prison records I can find on FindMyPast or the Old Bailey trial records re. the 1811 offence just don't contribute any info. that helps identify her. I've found newspaper reports of the 1811 case but, again, they add nothing about Mary.
There's an 1802 offence of a 19 yr old (YoB 1783) Mary Smith and Old Bailey trial where the offence occurs in Ratcliffe Highway - a notorious address in early 19th century London. Again, they add nothing to our knowledge of Mary.
Links to check -
https://www.digitalpanopticon.org/search?e0.type.t.t=root&e0._all.s.s=&e0.surname.s.s=smith&e0.given.s.s=mary&e0.born.y.l=1783&e0.born.y.h=1787

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/record/t18020918-84?text=%22mary%20smith%22

https://theratcliffehighway.wordpress.com/

       

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast has a record -
Name - Mary Smith
Came Free/born in Country - blank
Whether freed by servitude, Absolute Pardon, conditional pardon or partial ticket of leave - A P (?)
Vessel - Minstrel
Where and by whom employed - Wife to J Campbell, Liverpool

Again, cannot determine date when register created.

[hanes teulu]

The entry immediately below reads
Ann Campbell; came free; Minstrel; daughter to JC, Liverpool

 

Spotted this on Trove -
The Australian, Fri 22 Jun 1829

[hanes teulu]

The Sydney Gazette, 23 Mar 1830, has the marriage of an Ann Campbell - see snippet.

However checking it out on FindMyPast -
Ann Campbell and John Scarr, married 10 Mar 1830, marriage place Liverpool NSW, groom "of Airds NSW," brides birthplace "of Liverpool, NSW"

[maddys52]

Unfortunately John CAMPBELL is a reasonably common name. I would think the 1829 article is not the correct CAMPBELL family. In 1828 they are at Botany, with no daugher Ann.

[hanes teulu]

The problem I'm having is dating some of the FindMyPast records. I couldn't date the entry "Ann Campbell;came free.... &c".
I'd ruled out Ann Campbell/Scarr after comparing YoB (1807) and arrival dates of the Minstrel (25 Oct 1812 and 22 Aug 1825).

Omitted to add - there was a 2nd Ann Campbell marriage, Liverpool, 1830!