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John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« on: Monday 17 March 25 01:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

My direct ancestor iis John Wall (1621-1687) of Darley, Derbyshire/.  I haver quite a bit of information about him but his wife Troth remains a mystery.   In his will  she is referred to as Troth Wall as is her burial record 15 July 1692. I cannot find a record of her birth, baptism or their marriage record.

I found some information which did not really add up that her father Anthony Troth was from Feckenham, Worcestershire.  However, I believe that Troth is John Wall's wife Christian name not her unmarried surname.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 March 25 08:03 GMT (UK) »
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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 25 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Bit off date wise but could this be her on family search site ??? ???

Name   Troth Wall
Sex   Female
Father's Name   Anthony Wall
Father's Sex   Male
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   24 Mar 1695
Event Place   Darley, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Darley, Derby, England

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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 March 25 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Sorry just re read you post and found this ::)

Name   Troth Wall
Event Type   Burial
Event Date   1692
Event Place   Darley, Darley, Derbyshire, England
Event Place (Original)   Darley, Darley, Derbyshire, England
Record Type   Burial

So not her above but strange possible another relative maybe ???
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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 March 25 11:15 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on Family Search site that has a Mrs Troth Wall (1624 - 1692) married to a John Wall (1621-1688)

No mention of her parents  ???
 
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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 March 25 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Where and when were their children baptised
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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 March 25 22:12 GMT (UK) »
In case you haven't seen them, John and Troth's wills are available on FindMyPast.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fstaff%2f007622697%2f00565&parentid=gbprs%2fstaff%2fwills%2f363176

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fstaff%2f007622732%2f00206&parentid=gbprs%2fstaff%2fwills%2f368592

They had sons Anthony, William, John, Stephen and David. (Except David is only mentioned in Troth's will, not in John's.)

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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 March 25 06:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi.  Thank you for your efforts regarding missing information regarding John Wall and his wife Troth.

I see that you have all come to the same road block as I have:

a} cannot find a marriage record for John Wall and wife Troth
b)  cannot find a date of birth or baptismal record for troth ??? (do not know her last name which makes things hard} 

John Wall was baptised in Darley (father George) and he and wife Troth lived and died at Wensley, Darley. Derbyshire.  I have both their burial records and wills.

Their children seem to have been baptised at Darley.

One thought that has occurred to me (and this is a stab in the dark) is that Troth came from a family who were not Church of England and her recordsmay not be availabld.

Thank you again for your help.
marp

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Re: John Wall and wife troth of Darley, Derbyshire
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 March 25 08:50 GMT (UK) »
I looked for any Troth/Troath/Throthea's born in Derbyshire 1618-1625 and there are about 8.

Maybe their Fathers left a Will?
Hopefully naming a Daughter as Mrs Wall.


Trish :)

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