Mckenzie

[Freya Ellingsen]

John McKenzie marriage.

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I cannot make out the section of parents it looks like Johns mother Helen re married and I cannot see her maiden name??
Many thanks for that info ...

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Freya Ellingsen, have you viewed the 1921 census ref 644/22 44/20 Partick to establish where John birth was recorded. He is aged 36 = 1885 as per his marriage in 1907 aged 22 = 1885.

Trying to establish his mother's maiden name.

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[Forfarian]

Trying to establish his mother's maiden name.

I can't decipher it either.

Use the 'Report an issue' button to ask SP to re-scan the certificate because her maiden name is illegible.

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Think I might have cracked this--please pull apart if wrong.

John McKenzie was born c1884/5 as was aged 36y 6mths in 1921 born Govan.

Birth--see image

Mother Helen Forrester McClure born 2.4.1865

1871 census-- Helen Algie, aged 6 -322 Parliamentary Road Glasgow

1878 marriage

MCCLURE MARGARET & ALGIE  JOHN 1878 644 / 9 / 36 Kelvin

1881 census --Helen aged 16, Book Folder 17 High St, Parish Glasgow St Paul

Marriage

MCKENZIE DONALD & MCCLURE HELEN FORESTER 1882 644 / 10 / 294 Anderston

Marriage

DONNELLY ANTHONY & MCCLURE HELEN 1890 644 / 10 / 444 Anderston
DONNELLY ANTHONY & MCKENZIE HELEN 1890 644 / 10 / 444 Anderston
DONNELLY ANTHONY & ALGIE  HELEN 1890 644 / 10 / 444 Anderston


1891 census -- Helen Donnel,--aged 26-114 Douglas St

Anthony O Donnell 36 Head
Helen Donnell   26   Wife
John A M Donnell 6 Son       (possibly John Algie McKenzie Donnell/O'Donnell)
Margaret Aljie 50 Mother-in-law

1901

Anthony Donnelly 45 Head
Ellen Donnelly   36   Wife
John McKenzie 16 Stepson (Step Son)  occupation RIVET BOY
Maggie Donnelly 4 Daur (Daughter)
Margaret Algie 55 Mother-in-law
Rachel McCallum 29 Boarder
John McCallum 10 Boarder

Probably Helen in 1937

Name   Helen M'k Algie (  Helen McKenzie Algie)?
Residence Year   1935
Address   Langside Road, Cathcart
Residence Place   Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division   Glasgow

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added--deaths
MCKENZIE JOHN ALGIE aged 66 Male 1951 644 / 14 / 739 Partick

DONNELLY HELEN FORRESTER aged 89 Female 1955 644 / 10 / 72 Milton

ALGIE MARGARET aged 56 SWEENEY Female 1903 646 / 3 / 123 Partick

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Possibly the death of Donald McKenzie.

MCKENZIE
DONALD
38
M
1886
022 / MR / 245
Marine Return

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[Freya Ellingsen]

Well thank you v much.
It will take a bit to take it all in, Im a bit confused at the moment but I will keep on reading it until I get it lol! You are a gem, I spent last night trying to see what her second marriage name was and I came up with McClue but I see you are correct!

Cheers,

Fran

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Just putting a little order into my post.

Margaret McClure born c 1846/7-----mother of Helen Forrester McClure

Helen Forrester McClure born 1865-1955-----mother of John Algie McKenzie

John Algie McKenzie 1885-1955---married Mary Dickson.

All marriages as previously posted.

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[Freya Ellingsen]

Well I thought Id got it all but after your last message Im still confused even more!

"Margaret McClure born c 1846/7-----mother of Helen Forrester McClure"

MCCLURE MARGARET & ALGIE  JOHN 1878 644 / 9 / 36 Kelvin, so was this another marriage of Helens mother? Where does the Forrester come into it? McClure a maiden name of Margaret or another marriage?
Hope I'm not confusing u...

Fran

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The situation appears to be:

Margaret McClure c1845/6(maiden name) has a daughter( Helen Forrester McClure in 1865) No father recorded. I suspect the "Forrester" could be the surname of the father.

Margaret McClure then marries John Algie in 1878--BUT-- it appears Margaret & Helen are using the Algie surname in 1871 census.

Helen is not with her mother in 1871 census.

When Helen marries for the second time she is a: a widow formerly McKenzie
                                                                    b: born as McClure
                                                                    c: previously known as Algie after mother's marriage

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