Handwriting help - Birth place

[JenB]

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=48374.msg191606#msg191606
Previous thread, same topic.

Opinions were divided there as to whether is was Russia or Prussia, but the feeling was that the second word could well begin with the letter 'F'.

[jimbo50]

DELETED. Yes I give up.

[PatLac]

This is the person's handwriting for Frederick... and Morris's place of birth... Freisack?

[JenB]

You've all ignored the fact that there is another starting letter, after Russia and before what I think is a capital H. It has faded away except for the curve of an S as illustrated many times on the page .
Why ?

I think the starting letter you refer to is is in fact an extravagant loop, part of the starting capital, which I think might be 'F'. The top of the loop is incomplete which is why it looks a bit like another letter.

As examples here is the mystery word followed by two examples of names beginning 'F' from the same page.

[jimbo50]

Thank you JenB. Yes, i'll go along with that.

[JLo]

Thank you. That is really helpful to compare to Frederick and Frances and it does seem to begin with Fr. Friesack is a place in (present-day) Germany not that far away from Berlin. I thought the 1871 census saying Berlin was like saying you come from London when you are in the Home Counties. Will dig a bit at Friesack and see if that takes me anywhere!

[JLo]

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=48374.msg191606#msg191606
Previous thread, same topic.

Opinions were divided there as to whether is was Russia or Prussia, but the feeling was that the second word could well begin with the letter 'F'.

Time flies when you're stuck at a brick wall. 20 years ago!!! I came to Friesack at the end then, I hope there is more available now than there was then.

[PatLac]

One very similar family living in Islington in 1881, husband from Germany -Edward Lowenthal- and wife from Manchester. Can't see his occupation on FamilySearch, but you could check it on Ancestry or FindMyPast.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q279-2B64

[Milliepede]

Button manufacturer

He is on an alien arrivals list.  Lodger in 1871 from Kingdom of Hanover