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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 21:37 BST (UK) »
Abraham and Annie married in 1907  :-\
The 1911 has Abraham bn 1909 and Mark 1910

ENTWISTLE, ABRAHAM       mmn LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 673

ENTWISTLE, MARK       mmn LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 574

Rosie, I have also bought the birth certificates for Jennie and Agnes. Jennie is correct, she was born at another family address. I need to look further into Agnes' as it doesnt yet fit as easily.

As far as the census goes in 1921, it mentions 6 children under 16, Abraham is over 16 at the time so he wouldnt count. That would leave one more child unaccounted for.

ENTWISTLE, ANNIE       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 1110

ENTWISTLE, THERESA       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1912  D Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 1080

ENTWISTLE, JENNIE       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 918
   


ENTWISTLE, AGNES       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1918  S Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 08A  Page 115
 


Thank you Rosie,

I have bought the birth certificates for Jennie and Agnes. Jennie was born at a family home so she is correct. Agnes is more complicated so I'll need to do more digging to confirm things.

As for the 1921 Census, it mentions 6 children under 16 but the eldest child is aged 19 so there must be another missing child somewhere.

Thanks, Luke

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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 22:00 BST (UK) »
Cas,

some wonderful gems here. The baptism for Mark & Anne is correct. Ellen Duffy is the sister of Abraham Ent so thats certain too.

I'll research to confirm the other things but this is all really great.

Thank you and thank you all!

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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 22:14 BST (UK) »
The eldest child was Abraham, his birth was registered in 1908 not 1901.  I thought he had been found with his aunt Ellen in 1921 age 13
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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 23:10 BST (UK) »
Apologies Rosie, you are right


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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 April 25 05:23 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage

Abraham Entwistle
Registration Date   March Q 1934
Registration District   Halifax
Inferred County   Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse   Margaret E Winter
Volume Number   9a Page number   908

1939 register for couple gives his birthdate as 26 May 1877, same date as you have, so a very good possible it is your Abraham.

1939 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61596/records/20635419

Possible - Deaths Dec Q 1953   
ENTWHISTLE  Abraham age  75 Halifax    2b   527

1939 for wife transcribed gives b 1870, but I think it is likely 1879

Deaths Sep Q 1956   
Entwhistle    Margaret E   age 77    Halifax    2b   507   

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 April 25 05:29 BST (UK) »
There is also this tree that has Agnes birthdate and marriage. No cert data but maybe family knowledge, possibly worth contacting

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/174028171/person/312255005239/facts

Marriage was 1940 Oldham, 2 likely children to couple. Possibly tree owner is relation.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 April 25 21:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you once again Cas. The person with the family tree shares a little of DNA with me it would seem so thats a good possibility - I've messaged her. The death certificate is well worth me looking into.

Thanks again, Luke