Researching soldier from medals?

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Victor's sister Florence Adelaide married 1929 and names her father as Herbert Joseph Hoyland (deceased) Engineer.

Wonder if name Herbert was adopted after eldest brother as per Victors marriage as well ?

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[ShaunJ]

1911 census at 7 Half Moon Crescent, Islington.  Surname changed to Vickers:

Herbert Vickers senr 37 unemployed engineer born Southwark; married 12 years, 5 children all living.
Emily Elizabeth, wife, 39 born Southsea
Children: Herbert 11, Emily 10, Victor 7, all born Southsea, Hampshire,  And Joseph, 1, born Southwark.

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By 1921 census, Emily snr, Emily, Adelaide (Florence) and Joseph have reverted back to Hoyland.

VICKERS, STANLEY  JOSEPH     mmn WHEELER 
GRO Reference: 1909  S Quarter in CAMBERWELL  Volume 01D  Page 776  Occasional Copy: B

This could be Col. Stanley Joseph Hoyland-
https://www.rlcarchive.org/jObit?ID=273


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London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1921

Looks as though Victor Vickers (dob 30.12.1903) is in Southwark Camberwell,Newlands Cottages Registers, 1903-1921 with his sister Emily dob 1900 in 1908,

by 6th April 1909 are Herbert, Emily & Victor are in workhouse, recorded as Baptists

20th April 1909, Herbert, Emily & Adelaide in workhouse, recorded as Baptists

There is also a Herbert Vickers aged 45 in 1913 in workhouse occ- **** fitter, abode 66, Leman Street, injury to face, Religion Baptist, wife Emily, abode 2 Herne Hill. Pentonville, N

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2 Herne Hill

That's probably 2 Hermes Hill - the address of Herbert Vickers in the 1915 electoral register and the address given by Herbert Hoyland junior for his family in his army WW1 papers.

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2 Herne Hill

That's probably 2 Hermes Hill - the address of Herbert Vickers in the 1915 electoral register and the address given by Herbert Hoyland junior for his family in his army WW1 papers.

Thanks ShaunJ, as an aside have you looked into Joseph Hoyland the father. Iv'e got myself into a corner with him. The Joseph who married Amy Leadbetter in 1906 was aged 45 in 1921 and born Harrow. He died in 1932 and left a probate record that mentions Amy. However I still believe he is the same Joseph Hoyland who married Emily Elizabeth Smyth nee' Wheeler in 1899. What is throwing me with this is he was a Sapper on sons birth record and I posted earlier a letter he sent from the USA in 1938--6 years after he died. Any help to put this to rest for me would be appreciated. Also his service records record he had also married 2.6.1914 Montreal to a Jennie Blaine. Cannot find a marriage though.

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The Joseph who married Amy Leadbetter in 1906 was aged 45 in 1921 and born Harrow. He died in 1932 and left a probate record that mentions Amy. However I still believe he is the same Joseph Hoyland who married Emily Elizabeth Smyth nee' Wheeler in 1899. What is throwing me with this is he was a Sapper on sons birth record and I posted earlier a letter he sent from the USA in 1938--6 years after he died. Any help to put this to rest for me would be appreciated. Also his service records record he had also married 2.6.1914 Montreal to a Jennie Blaine.

The Joseph who married Jennie Blaine and joined the Royal Engineers in 1916 declared that he had not previously served in the British Army or Navy, so unlikely to be the sapper father of Herbert born 1899. I did also ponder over his apparent age on enlistment (27) but he seems to have added 10 years to his age by 1918.

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Was offline yesterday so just now seeing all the new information posted. Will take me a while to read through and digest it all but many thanks for all the details found.