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Offline gillianR

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1861-1871-1881
« on: Sunday 18 September 05 17:56 BST (UK) »
I am looking for Owen Oswell (Ozwell)
on the 1861, 1871 and 1881.
He was born about 1822. Father William and Mother Mary. He was born in Charlbury Oxfordshire.

He is on the 1891 with his wife Eliza
and on the 1891 with his wife Eliza.

They lived at 50 and 47 Sheep Street respectively,
Charlbury Oxfordshire

Many thanks
GillianR

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 September 05 18:53 BST (UK) »
Hi GillianR,

Is it possible that this is your man? (1871)

George Oswell 1823  Charlbury, Oxfordshire, England Head  St Pancras  London
Eliza Oswell 1829  Charlbury, Oxfordshire, England Wife  St Pancras  London   

Living at 15 Millman Views

Jeannette
Davies - Montgomeryshire
Edwards - Selattyn Shropshire
Jones - Llangollen Denbighshire
Harris - Llangollen  Denbighshire/ Cardiganshire
Humphreys - Oswestry / Whittington Shropshire
Pearce - Kent
Gould - Essex / Kent
Phillips - Cefn Mawr
Armstrong - Lincolnshire
Baines - Manchester / Selattyn Shropshire
Kempster - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
Pugh - Corwen Merionethshire
Wright - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 September 05 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeanette
Thanks for your reply, but it is not my man.
You have given me George Oswell and wife Eliza.

On the 1861 - 1871 and 1881 census I am looking for Owen Oswell born about 1822.
Charlbury Oxfordshire
He is on the 1891 and 1901 with his wife Eliza.

Thanks all the same
GillianR

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 September 05 19:06 BST (UK) »
i wondered if he had another name, as the other details matched what you had posted

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Davies - Montgomeryshire
Edwards - Selattyn Shropshire
Jones - Llangollen Denbighshire
Harris - Llangollen  Denbighshire/ Cardiganshire
Humphreys - Oswestry / Whittington Shropshire
Pearce - Kent
Gould - Essex / Kent
Phillips - Cefn Mawr
Armstrong - Lincolnshire
Baines - Manchester / Selattyn Shropshire
Kempster - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
Pugh - Corwen Merionethshire
Wright - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr


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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 September 05 19:29 BST (UK) »
Hi again J

Ah yes, it is possible, but I don't know really, as I have not come across another name for him, but as you say, the details matched.

Could you have a try for the 1861 and 1881??
:)

Many thanks
GillianR

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 September 05 19:31 BST (UK) »
Hello, Gillian,

Let's not dismiss Jeanette's findings out of hand because the one common factor is Eliza with the correct details. I think her findings are correct because this ties up with what I have found in 1881.
Nothing is ever as it seems in this game. Cobble together 1881 and 1871 and I think you have your people.

1881 census

15 Millward Mews (same as 1871) St Pancras London

Owen Oswald Age age 58 born Charlbury Oxfordshire Cab Proprietor
Eliza Wife Age 52 born Charlbury Oxfordshire
Sarah Claydon Step Dau(?) - this bit not clear Laundress  Born 1849 Charlbury
George Claydon Visitor born Charlbury Age 10

This is the same couple as on 1871 except he prefers the name George. Occupation on 1871 is also Cab Proprietor employing two men.

Oswald can easily be misheard for Oswell. He may have been named Owen George or George Owen or just got fed up of being Owen. Who knows.


Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 September 05 23:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Tricia

Thanks for your reply, and I do agree with you about not dismissing Jeanette's findings, I have kept them actually, and yes, they do tie in.

Many thanks

GillianR

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 September 05 23:30 BST (UK) »
Don't know about Jeanette but not having any luck on 1861. Bit of a difficult family - especially if they keep changing heir name.

Do you know if they had any children?

Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: 1861-1871-1881
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 September 05 23:39 BST (UK) »
Just had a thought - bearing in mind that in 1881 there appears to be a step daughter recorded then presumably Eliza was married previously. There is no Eliza Oswell on 1861 but there is a widowed Eliza Claydon who may just be her.
I'll post the details just in case.

Living Playing Close, Charlbury

Thomas Willis Head Age 57  born Woodstock Oxfordshire Glove Cutter
Elizabeth Wife Age 55 born Oxfordshire
James Johnson Wife's brother Widower Age 44 Leather Grounder born Charlbury
Eliza Claydon Niece Age 30 Widow born Charlbury
Jane Claydon (indexed as niece's dau) Age 12 born Charlbury

Eliza's age is only 2 years out and there is no other match on 1861

 
RG9/909 Chipping Norton Charlbury Folio 36 Page 30


Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi