Lillian Marks - Hartington Derbyshire

[KoKo]

Hi all

Can anyone out there shed any light on the family background of my late grandmother Lillian Marks.

I know that she was born in 1899, died in 1975 and is buried in Hartington Churchyard in Derbyshire.

In 1926 she married Thomas Kavanagh and the wedding register was signed by a Florence Marks and a John Marks.

I suspect that John was her father and Florence her sister but this is pure speculation.

I cannot find any BMD records for her family or any census returns.  Help please......


KoKo

[cath151]

Hi,probably not the Lillian you are looking for but the names could fit.
  1901 census
Resident Salford Lancashire.
John Marks head b.1870  Churchstanton,Devon
Minnie         wife  b.1869  Swindon,Somerset
Florence       dau b. 1894
Mary             dau. b.1896
Henry            son b.1898
Lillian             dau B about 1900  age 1
  All children born in Salford.
Also Minnie Elizabeth Marks  died December 1901
                                        Good luck looking for your family tree
                                                               Cathy

['Tricia]

Best way to verify if this is the correct family is to send for the marriage certificate to see father's name.

Lillian Marks married Thomas Kavanagh
Quarter ending January 1926
Mansfield
GRO Reference
Vol 7b
Page 137

I presume this is Mansfield in Nottinghamshire - next County to Derbyshire

It can be ordered online for £7 at www.gro.gov.uk

Tricia

[KoKo]

Ladies,

Thank you for you advice and suggestions. I have had a discussion with my Dad who suddenly remembered that he has his parents marriage certificate!!

This shows that Lillians father was indeed John Marks, and the marriage was witnessed by Florence Marks and John Robert Sherratt.

The brides address /place of residence was given as 127 Blake Street, Mansfield, Woodhouse.

I have some info on John Rob Sherratt as per another of my postings but am still at a loss as to Lillian's family.  My Dad thinks that she came from the Derby area, but at this stage I am still not discounting your info regarding the potential link to Salford and Devon.

Thanks for your help so far.

Any other info on Lillian's family and background would be most welcome.

KoKo

['Tricia]

Your dad doesn't happen to have Lilian's birth cert tucked away somewhere, does he? 

Does the age on marriage cert correspond with 1899 and does it give dad'soccupation?

There is a good chance that this is the correct family - no reason why they shouldn't move around but we do need to prove it

Tricia (born in Mansfield Woodhouse)!

[KoKo]

Hi Tricia,

It's a small world isn't it!!

Sadly Dad doesn't recall seeing either a birth or death certificate for his Mum (Lillian), He has them for his Dad, but we have traced him back to the Irish "Exodus" in the late 1840's.

However I agree that there is a good chance of the Salford connection being good.

I will ask further questions surrounding Lillians back ground and keep you informed via this thread.

Thanks for all your help so far. 

KoKo

['Tricia]

If you could confirm age on marriage cert I will look on 1837 for all births of Lilian Marks within that period.  There shouldn't be too many.And John's occupation - this is important as the chap on 1901 worked on Railways and could be a clue.

Thanks, Tricia

[KoKo]

Hi Tricia,

The info on the marriage Certificate is as follows:-

Date : 6 Febry 1926
Name : Lillian Marks
Age:  26
Condition:  Spinster
Residence :  Mansfield Woodhouse
Father's Name : John Marks
Fathers rank :  F***man - difficult to decipher  - Fireman??
Witnessed by : Florence marks
                        John Robert Sherratt

I hope that this will help.

I spoke again with Dad and he vaguely remember an Aunty Mary which could be the Mary in the 1901 Census.

He is going to talk to his sister to see what she can remember - afterall you ladies seem to be much better at remembering these things than us chaps !!


I will continue to post any updates as and when new info or leads come to light.

Thanks once again.

KoKo