Death Certificates

[DMC]

Concerning the issue of marriage certificates in the late 1800's.  Can you please tell me, when the father of the bride was deceased at the time of the marriage, although his name appears on the certificate, was deceased put in brackets  after his name or only sometimes.

I hope this is clear.

Regards

Dianne

[Keith Sherwood]

Dianne,
I'm afraid to say that in my experience of deceased fathers mentioned on marriage certificates, sometimes the fact they were dead by the time their son or daughter got married was not noted down - presumably the registrar was not told.  If the "deceased" in brackets appears, I think you can presume that was the case; however, if it doesn't, you cannot assume absolutely that that person was still alive at the time of the wedding. 
On more than one occasion a father of the bride/groom has been put on a marriage certificate I have ordered with no "deceased" attached, and I have personally known that he had already died.
Hope that sounds clear...
Very best wishes,
Keith

[DMC]

Keith,

Thank you for your reply.  That does help to clear up one of my uncertainities.  I'm tracing Davies and Price and thought I may have been chasing a line that was not there.

Regards

Dianne

[Keith Sherwood]

Dianne,
I'm glad that I was of some help - I know this business of a father of the bride/groom not being declared deceased, when he'd actually passed away some time before the marriage took place, has caused me a great deal of wasted time looking in the BMD's fruitlessly in the wrong place.
But I don't envy you your search for DAVIES and PRICE, so many of them...!
Keith

[c w]

I have experienced quite the opposite. On one marriage cert. the father of the groom was stated as deceased. however he was still alive for quite some years afterwards!  My only explanation for this, is -the daughter in question had a child about 2 years prior to her marriage.  So I assume the parents had disowned her.


Also, on the census I have an ancestor who is described as widowed, however, his wife is still alive in another county.  Perhaps he had wished she were dead  

[DMC]

Thank you for your input.

Just noticed you have an interest in Morgans of Monmouthshire.
 
They would'nt be the family of Henry Morgan born abt. 1833 and Jane Morgan born abt. 1837, children Agness, David, Jane, Ruth, Thomas, William.  I refer to the 1871 Census of Llanover Upper Monmouthshire?  Also 1861 Census of Llanhilleth same family.

[c w]

Hi Diane,

I have Morgan on both sides of my family - one branch originating in Radnorshire and the other in the parish of Bedwellty, Monmouthshire.  By the 1871 census they were all living around the Tredegar area.  There seems no apparent link to your Morgan family.

Caroline

[DMC]

Caroline

Thank you for your reply.

Dianne