Humbor, Parton Parish: place or a farm?:Resolved

[Northerngirl]

I wonder if anyone can give me information about Parton and its parish.

I have traced my great, great, great grandmother's sister, brother and parents to Humbor Parton.  The period is from c1785 to c1813. As my ggg grandmother's father was a farmer I wonder if this has been a farm.  I have not traced her or her husband yet.  The IGI information tells me that they are all born 'Humbor, Parton'.  I have looked  as much as I can on the Explorer 320 map for a farm with this name.  There is none.  Other farms mentioned in the census' etc are found on this map so wonder if this could also be a place also.

Thanks
J.A

[nettle]

I can't believe that this can be so obscure and still on the IGI but can't find anything on all sorts of searches.

Can you post details of one of the persons shown with these details on the IGI please?

[Northerngirl]

Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I can actually believe that the IGI system is so frustrating.  I have several references to the same person on different but individual records - each has a little bit of information different from the other.  One find is my ggg uncle Samuel Shaw born 1813
I have the information open now and refound the record it states Humbor, Parton Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland.


Yours J.A

[nettle]

Hi.

Since this record is not an extracted record (ie from Parish records) but a submission by a member of the LDS church its difficult to trace the evidence. It may be that the LDS film of this record has some contact details but I'm not sure if thats usually the case or not. You could contact your nearest LDS Family History library.

I suspect it is a farm or collection of dwellings, but can i find any record??! you probably need a local historian to that area.

Keith.

[Northerngirl]

Thanks Keith

I already suspected that I would need someone who knows the area. 

There is a small farm/area called Howmuir and wonder if this could have been a corruption or 'mis - hearing/mis-spelling'  - howmor hombor - on census.

Yours J.A

[Scatza]

Hi J.A.

Hope you received the Mrs Isabella Shaw testament I sent you?

I have been at it again, and wondered if this is 'your' Samuel, or his father? Samuel b. 1813 was not living at home at census time, obviously!


1851 census: Boghill, Kirkpatrick Durham

Samuel Shaw, Farmer of 40 acres employing 1, age 64, born Balmaclellan
Nicholas Shaw, wife, 60, born Urr
Margaret, daughter, wife of California Gold Digger, M, 28
Jannet , daughter, U, 24, born Kirkpatrick Durham
Mary, daughter, U, 33, born Kirkpatrick Durham

1861 census Urr
Samuel Shaw, 74, Urr
Nicholas Shaw, 70, Urr

The ages are a bit 'off', but they are surely the same people. I have also looked for Humbor on old maps, and no sign of such a place.

Scatza

Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I can actually believe that the IGI system is so frustrating.  I have several references to the same person on different but individual records - each has a little bit of information different from the other.  One find is my ggg uncle Samuel Shaw born 1813
I have the information open now and refound the record it states Humbor, Parton Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland.


Yours J.A

[Northerngirl]

Hi Scatza

Yes I got your information.  Thanks. It's quite difficult to decipher.   I've also seen the information re Samuel and Nicholas.  I'll have a proper look at it now.  I'm increasingly beginning to wonder if Humbor is actually Howmuir!

Thanks again.

J.A