Can't find the Phillips pre: 1881

[Squirt]

Dear All;

Hoping for some advice in locating my Phillips family. 

As per the 1881 UK census I have Elizabeth Wiseman (Phillips) born 1856.  All it states is she was born in Wales.

Living beside Elizabeth is her sister Sarah Bailey (Phillips), born approx. 1853-1854.  Again, all it states is she was born in Wales.

Elizabeth and Sarah's father is noted as being David Phillips and his occupation on Sarah's marriage cert. in 1878 was a Miller.

I have both Elizabeth and Sarah on the 1881, 1891 & 1901 census. 

Any help is most appreciated.

Sincerely;
Cas

[Iria]

Hi Cas

1861 Census shows as Follows


Vion Llaugollan Merionethshire Wales


David Phillips Head Mar 38   Miller     born Llanrwst Den Wales   
Elizabeth Philips Wife Mar 38             born Vion Cyssydle Wales
Amelia Phillips Dau             14             Born  Vion Cyssydle Wales
Robert Phillips Son              10 Scholar Born Vion Cyssydle Wales
Sarah Phillips   Dau              7   Scholar Born Vion Cyssydle Wales
Elizabeth Phillips Dau           6 Scholar   Born Vion Cyssydle Wales
Sarah Griffiths Mother in Law Wid 75     Born Vion Cyssydle Wales
Elizabeth Mitton Vist Mar 22 Publicans wife born Ruabon Parish


Hope this helps in some way

Regards

Iria

[Squirt]

Dear Iria;

Thank you so very much for the information you sent to me.  You have not only given me more family members, you have also taken down a brickwall.

I truly thank you for your help and your kindness.

Sincerely;
Cas

[Iria]

Hi Cas

Am Glad i could help in some way

1871 Cenus shows as Follows

L?? Terrace Llangollen Trevor Isaf Den Wales

David Phillips Head 50 Miller Born Llanrevit Den Wales
Elizabeth Phillips Wife 49      Born Llangollen
Robert Phillips Son       20      Born Llangollen
Amelai Philips Dau        24      Born Llangollen


I cannot find Elizabeth and Sarah anywhere... Did you know where thay where in 1881?


Hope this has helped

Regards

Iria

[Squirt]

Dear Iria;

I have Sarah Phillips married in 1878 and in the 1881 UK Census, she is living with her husband George Bailey and daughter Lillie.  They are living at 12 Garnet St., Birkenhead, Cheshire.

Right next door on 12 Garnet St. is Elizabeth Phillips (sister to above).  Elizabeth is living with her husband William Wiseman.

I have no clue why Sarah and Elizabeth wouldn't show up on the 1871 census.

Again, I thank you for the information and your help.

Sincerely;
Cas

[Peterej]

I haven't looked at the census records but would guess that 'Vion Cyssydle' is really Froncysllte which is just outside Llangollen - just in case you look for the birth certificates.

Out of interest the Froncysllte Male Voice choir is well known and very successful!

I only wish I could sing.

Best wishes

Peterej

[Squirt]

Thank you Peterej for the information you sent to me in regards to location.  This will certainly come in handy once I start my hunt for birth certificates. 

Sincerely;
Cas

[Iria]

Hi Cas

I have found Elizabeth and Sarah 

1871 Census

Aquatash Inn Cysyllte Den Wales

Edward Jones Head 32 Inn Keeper Born Salop
Sarah Jones Wife 31                        Born Salop
Elizabeth Phillips Serv Um 15 Gen Servent Born Llangollen


1871 Census

11 Chapel Street Den Wales

Richard W Foulkes Head M 22 Park ?/ Derbyshire
Amelia Foulkes Wife M 27                Wales
Sarah Phillips Serv um 17 Gen Servant Llangollen Wales



Hope this has helped in some way

Regards

Iria

[Peterej]

not sure what Aquatash means but there is an aqueduct joining Froncysllte to near the main Llangollen road to Ruabon. It is used by canal barges and is quite famous locally and very pretty. You can actually walk across it. I am sure there will be information about it on the internet

Peterej