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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 06:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeffery

I have found only one gravestone for Parkin and that is for a Eleanor died 1894 aged 54 and her husband Joseph who died 1907 aged 67. They are buried at Gateshead East cemetery. You say that John Parkin was shown as deceased on the 1851 marriage entry so he could not be buried in Gateshead East as that was not opened until 1862. I have checked my database for the surrounding church graveyards but no Parkins.  I assume that you came across the FreeBDM entry for a John Parkin who died in 1849 in Gateshead, could he be your's.

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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 10:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Gary,

Thanks for that...............yes, I found a death for a John Parkin in 1849 in Gateshead on FreeBMD and as I couldn't find him anywhere in the 1851 census (together with John Parkin being deceased by the time his son married), I thought he was perhaps the most likely candidate.

I was working on the assumption (correct or otherwise) that Mariner and Waterman could be interchangable.

Have you any idea where people from the asylum were buried at that time? Would they have been unmarked graves do you think?

If John died in the asylum, is his death certificate likely to provide any useful info with regards to his relatives/family or would it just be asylum details?  ???

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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 14:01 BST (UK) »
A couple of bits of info which may, or may not be relevant. I remember a Mr & Mrs PARKIN lived on Glynwood Gardens circa 1950. I was young so don't know their first names.

I also remember the 'Sylum Square on Church Road before it was demolished. And on the 1895 Ordnance map of Sheriff Hill, it shows "Potter's Field' on Sodhouse Bank, just north of Blue Quarries Road. Could this be where the deceased inmates were buried? In fact, on one of the buildings on the west sde of Sodhouse Bank, there is an inscription Potter's Field 1822.

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« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 19:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeffery

There is a photograph & a brief history of the asylum at this link http://www.rootschat.com/links/05z3/
I am guessing as regard the burial place for the inmate's but St Johns would be the logical place.
I would imagine not many inmates received a burial with a headstone. As for the death certificate I would think a member of staff would have been the person to report the death.

Added: A waterman was apparently a ferryman.

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« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 19:33 BST (UK) »
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A photograph of 7 Church Road taken 01/04/09.

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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 22:28 BST (UK) »
I understand from my father, who was born in 1914, he remembers these houses, (on the south side of the road) and Rosewood Gardens, being built circa 1920. As I said before, on the 1895 Ordnace map, the only 4 cottages on Church Road on the north side of the road. I remember these cottages from when I went to Sheriff Hill Primary School 1941 - 1945.

The asylum, after closing down, was used to house really poor people, and I remeber visiting relatives there, circa 1942. It was commonly called the'Sylum Square.'

Rob Hall,   Katy, TEXAS

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« Reply #78 on: Thursday 02 April 09 13:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gary and Rob for your feedback..........much appreciated.  :)

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« Reply #79 on: Saturday 04 April 09 17:03 BST (UK) »
Hi, I wonder if you or anyone can help!  I'm researching the Waters family from Gateshead Fell in the late 1780's and into about 1840 in particular Joseph born about 1783 and his family - Alexander, William, Joseph, Mark, Mary, Jane, James, Margaret and Thomas all born between 1813 - 1835 with the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th children born in High Felling and baptized in High Felling Weslyan Methodist Chapel.  I feel sure that Joseph had brothers/sisters and one of them may have had a daughter Sarah Waters born about 1826 in High Felling. Any information about this family would be appreciated. Regards, Jess

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« Reply #80 on: Saturday 04 April 09 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Jess

Welcome to RootsChat. I have a photograph of a gravestone for a Thomas Waters died 1917 aged 80 his wife Isabella Jane died 1920 aged 77 and thier eldest son Joseph died 1890 aged 29. The stone is broken and part of it is missing. The gravestone is in Gateshead East Cemetery.

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