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Anglesey / Lloyd family in Beaumaris from 1826 on

« on: Thursday 17 March 16 01:14 GMT (UK) »

One of my cousins is a Lloyd, and I'm doing her tree. Her 2g grandfather was Llewelyn Lloyd, b. 1838 Beaumaris to John and Elizabeth Lloyd. I have the 1841, 1851, and 1861 censuses for the family. There oldest child John Lloyd was born in Carnaarvonshire, possibly Llandygai, and he married Mary Hughes in Beamaris. Maria Lloyd, b.1826, married Henry Hughes. Elizabeth Lloyd b. 1828. Gaynor Lloyd b. 1830 m. Henry Owen/s. James Lloyd b. 1832, Jane Lloyd b. 1834, m. Joseph Watkins. Benjamin Lloyd b. 1836, m. Ann Dixon. Llewellyn immigrated to the US, married in Virginia, finally settled in Texas.
I can't figure out the birthplaces of the parents. On the 1851 census, John is born "Pentravolis, Denbighshire", and Elizabeth is born "Ladegai, Caernarvonshire". In the 1861 census, John is born "Landegai, Caernarvonshire" and Elizabeth is born "Penbordry, Denbighshire". I think the places are actually Pentrefoelas, and Llandygai. Any ideas on figuring out who was born where?

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / I don't understand a GEDmatch result that looks like a match - Scottish DNA

« on: Saturday 01 August 15 01:22 BST (UK) »

I'm trying to confirm that one of my father-in-law (Dad)'s DNA matches (Jane) is related to him at her 2g grandfather. Dad's own great-grandfather was never named to his grandfather (b. 1850, Fife). Jane's 2gg and Dad's great-grandmother were from the same parish (Kilconquhar). Just this week Dad got NEW DNA hit with the same surname as Jane's 2gg. New DNA hit kindly assented to put his DNA into GEDmatch, and its a beautiful sight: Dads, Jane's, and New guys all over-lapping each other on Chromosome 1. This is Jane's smaller piece of matching DNA to Dad, the main one is 30 cM, so we are sure Dad and Jane match. Jane's smaller piece, the one on Chr 1, is 6.5 cM long. So I think there should be 6.5 cM of matching with New guy. But GEDmatch says only 3.1 cM.
How can this be? Because it can't be the other chromosome, because Dad's mother was Finnish, and I'm sure if I spend 10 minutes on GEDmatch I can find his corresponding Finnish match. (The Finnish people are big genealogy and DNA enthusiasts, and they are so nice and helpful).
So can anyone explain why GEDmatch says 3.1 when I can see 6.5? Janice

Aberdeenshire / Using DNA to find my 2g grandfather James Johnston, father of Peter b.1854 Fyvie

« on: Saturday 23 May 15 22:57 BST (UK) »

Anyone else use Ancestry DNA to confirm or eliminate an ancestor? Does "4th to 6th" cousin really translate to that on your family tree? Sorry but I'm just obsessed with this. I thought I had identified my 2g grandfather as James, the son of William Johnston, farmer at Baldyquash Farm Fyvie, and I have done a pretty good family tree on him. Now I get a note from a 2nd cousin that our great-grandfather Peter Johnston's baptism (1855, Old Medlrum) record states that his father is "James Johnston, farm servant in Inverurie".
So I find that a James Johnston had a boy baptized in Inverurie 18 Feb 1856. He is listed as a farm servant. I can't find this James' baptism or death record, but on the censuses his birth is given as 1818-1820, in King Edward Parish. I have his census records from 1851 to 1881. I have baptisms of 2 other kids. One kid, Mary Ann, is in several family trees on Ancestry, but nobody knows James' parents names.
Now I do the Ancestry DNA test, and I get two 4th to 6th cousin hits for Aberdeenshire, that don't match up to any of my other Aberdeen lines. Their ancestors are 1)John Gordon, b. 1788 King Edward, Margaret Robertson, Margaret Walker b. 1782, James Mackie 1788, and 2) Peter Mc Hattie b. 1792 Banff, Isabel Fraser b. 1802 Banff, Peter Duff b. 1798 Banff, and Janet Milne b. 1813 Banff. Peter Duff's mother is an Elizabeth Gordon.
I have checked the baptisms an marriage records of these names with Johnston, and I got some names, but how to I assess them? No obvious smoking guns. How much weight should I put on these DNA results? Any insights appreciated.

Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Peter Johnston bapt. Feb 11, 1855 Old Meldrum

« on: Monday 08 September 14 23:27 BST (UK) »

One of my distant relatives had written that our great-grandfather Peter Johnston was baptized 11 Feb 1855 in Old Meldrum. He was born June 29, 1854 (in Fyvie I believe). In the Free Congregation. I'd really like a full transcription of the baptism record, or where I can find it myself. Thanks, Janice

Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Using IGI vs Scotlands People - Any difference?

« on: Wednesday 25 June 14 16:33 BST (UK) »

I have been researching my grandfather's ancestors and family in Daviot, Aberdeenshire. I was using Scotland's People for records, and every record I get gives me another lead, so I get another one. This is getting expensive. I'm seriously considering switching to IGI at LDS centers. Is there any difference in the IGI and the records from SP? In Daviot, most birth records list the farm or village the baby's family was living in. That's been a big help to me, as Daviot is so small (600-1000 people) that if you have two kids born with the same last name on the same farm, with father's name the same, they are probably siblings. Please give me your opinions.

Aberdeenshire / James Johnston in Mounie, what does "in" mean?

« on: Friday 14 March 14 21:00 GMT (UK) »

I have traced my elusive Johnston ancestors back to 1784 in Daviot, when my 4g grandfather James Johnston marries Agnes Scorgick of Old Meldrum. When they have children, James is listed as "James Johnston in Mounie". What does "in" signify? I am trying to figure out his social status. In 1791, he is listed as the person to see about renting Mounie castle, in an Ad in the edinburgh advertiser. In the 1785 tax rolls, he is not listed. Yet he manages to marry into the rich farmer class, and through them gets connected to the squire of Glack. His 2nd wife was Mary Gray, she is listed as my 4g grandmother on my 3g grandfather's death record, by his widow who should know. Where should I go to investigate this? Is there any chance he is mentioned in the papers of the Seton family of Mounie? How can I access them in California? P.S. - I have found a 1st cousin thru genealogy searching!

Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Premnay churchyard lookup for Ledingham and Smith

« on: Friday 20 September 13 04:38 BST (UK) »

The Churchyard in Premnay is not on ANES site yet, can someone look up the Ledinghams of Premnay? Alexander died around 1850, his wife was Elspet, and he also had a son named Alexander. John Smith 1805-18?? may also be buried there with Mary Ledingham.

Aberdeenshire / Stuck on JOHNSTON part 2. Other names Ledingham, Smith, Booth, Sangster, Gray.

« on: Sunday 01 September 13 20:33 BST (UK) »

This is linked to my previous Stuck on JOHNSTON of Fyvie thread, The big part of that has been solved, and now I have new mystery: the Ledinghams. My great grandfather Peter Johnston, was born June 29, 1854 in Bourtie. In 1861, he is on the census living with his widowed, pauper grandmother Elspet Sangster Booth and some of her daughters and young grandchildren. In 1871, Peter is a 15 year old farm worker in Alford. In 1878, he marries Ann Smith (my g grandmother), daughter of John Smith and Mary Ledingham of Premnay. They marry at Auchleven, Premnay. Ann has a 3year old daughter Mary Ann, born outside marriage. On the marriage record, Peter lists James Johnston and Hellen Booth as his parents.
So now I want to connect Peter with the right James Johnston. Prime Candidate is James Johnston, born 1835 Rayne, living with his family on their large farm in Balyquash, Fyvie. Hellen is living in Saphock, Fyvie (in the 1851 census). This James' dad, William Johnston, dies in 1870 and leaves a will. In it, he give his estate to his 2 sons Adam and James, also some money to James Ledingham of Braeside Rothmaisie farm of Rayne.
According to Family Search, this James Ledingham was born 1 May 1822 to John Ledingham and Jane Davidson in Rayne. According to some family trees on Ancestry, John Ledingham was born to John Ledingham and Helen Warrak, This same John-Helen couple are also the parents of Alexander Ledingham, Mary Ledingham's father. But I am not sure if the trees are right, and this is going back into the 1700's, before the census. If anyone has some reliable info on this branch of the Ledinghams, please let me know. If James and Mary were indeed cousins, that would tend to infer paternity on James Johnston. Thanks! Janice

Canada / My Canadian Families: Johnston, Giles, Wallace, Oakley, Goszko, Humen, Korpan

« on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:02 BST (UK) »

Hiyah, I've been tracing my ancestors in Scotland, England, and Ukraine, and I should connect with some lateral branches too. All 4 of my grandparents were born in Europe, and immigrated to Canada as children or young adults between 1903 and 1912. On my mom's side I have great-grandfather Tymko Goszko, married to Maria Korpan, settled near Vegreville (cousins still farm there), and Dmitro Humen married to Kalyna Danyliuk, settled in Two Hills (also Alberta). Thanks to my grandfather and his siblings interest in genealogy 50 years ago, I had some good notes to go on for my internet search, and have quite a history compiled.
On my dad's side, some good stuff from Scotland and England, but when the family gets to Canada, yikes!! I cant find my great grandmother Elizabeth Roberts Giles, born 1859 in Lichfield, Staffordshire, after 1914. In 1914, the Elizabeth and 5 of her children are living in Lethbridge, Alberta, when 2 of them die when the Empress of Ireland sinks, and they are mentioned in the Lethbridge newspaper. Her 3 surviving children stay in Canada, I am looking for records for John, Thomas, and Ellen Giles.
On my husband's side, the following relatives immigrated to Canada from Fife, Scotland: Georgina Wallace, Fred Oakley, John Oakley, Christopher Oakley, and Alexander Milne.
Anyone in Canada with those relatives, lets connect!