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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #45 on: Friday 19 August 16 14:58 BST (UK) »
Last night I was watching a programme about trains, presented by the historians who did the 'life on the farms in different centuries).

Last night TV programme, they looked at repairing barrels and more important the work of the cooper was partly involved in the brewing or the ageing (or aging ?) of Whiskey or other brewing liquids was done by firing to char the barrel and timing the barrel age for smell - meaning one could not repair with new strips of new wood it had to be recycled from similar aged old broken barrels.

Thus cooper work aging the making brews was a brewing skill. Small Brewers/Innkeeper/Copper (One job or group of skilled workers of each trade in one backstreet concern business) behind a pub inn was common. 

Skill of ageing stuff!!  Brews/wine/cheese or timing in Tanning leather in baths is years.
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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 20 August 16 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm and All

Fortunately, we turned over and saw the barrel making and whisky distillery, to the end.

Great shame Richard Gibson's (Cooper Dealer and Chapman), 1807 Bankruptcy file (Guildhall, London) was it seems destroyed!

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/2?_st=adv&_ep=Gibson&_cr1=B&_dss=range&_sd=1700&_ed=1840&_ro=any&_hb=tna

For 1807, there was a William Hogarth Gibson of 3 Saville Row, Walworth, Surrey, Warehouseman, in TNA, Kew, Cat reference B

Richard Gibson of Great Surrey Street, Southwark, Surrey, Grocer (Dealer and Chapman) but 1830 (too late), in Cat reference B

1791 The Universal British Directory of Trade, Commerce, and Manufacture
Got the 5 vol. on pdfs - sadly not 'Ctrl F' searchable (2 vols downloaded are and I have Hoods listed). Plenty of Gibsons and several Hoods in London, in various trading businesses.

Rather than put the County places together, the Directories have spread Yorkshire places, over the whole set, but NO Hood listed for Selby.

Just thought, I'll look out Newcastle, Gateshead and Bishopwearmouth/Sunderland and see what Hoods are listed.

Whitehead's Newcastle Directory 1787, printed by T. Angus
The other 1787 Directory for Newcastle list:-
Anthony Hood, fitter, office, Broad chair.
Robert Hood, Spirit-dealer, north fide [side], Sandhill.

[possibly Anthony Hood & Co., Newcastle, connected?]
https://archive.org/stream/bordererstablebo05richiala

Robert Hood from Newcastle to Sunderland
BNA online - Newcastle Courant 7 October 1786 - Robert Hood from Newcastle wishes to acquaint his friends and the public, that he has entered upon the King's Head Inn, SUNDERLAND.

South Bishopwearmouth / Sunderland
The Sunderland area, was where James and Sarah Hood of Selby, had their son James Alfred Hood (34 Blandford Street, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland 25 September 1863), before the birth of their next child at Selby.

Regards Mark

Anthony Hood was the inventor of a certain machine drive belt (can't find the patent), but found this ...

NC council - Archaeology 2005
"George Wray, brick maker on South Shore, also owned a rope-walk (HER 5650; Fig 12) in 1771 (op cit,  p 78). This may be the same as that established by Stoddart and Co. in 1795 at Saltmeadows (HER 4366: Fig 12) and soon owned solely by a former partner Anthony Hood. In 1799 Hood introduced a rope-making machine, patented by William Chapman in 1798. This technological innovation eventually superceded the earlier rope-walks and marked the beginning of the growth of ropemaking in Gateshead (op cit, p 78)."
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 20 August 16 11:17 BST (UK) »
1791 Newcastle, re Anthony Hood, fitter ...
Anthony Hood,
Fitter of Simpsons - Pontop,
Tanfield-moor,
Blaydon-main,
Longbenton,
South-moor,
Whitefield,
Ryton-moor, and
Marly-hill, Coals.

Sounds like Anthony Hood of Newcastle, was a firm with contracts to the coal mining industry.

Scroll back to pages 35 & 36 for Rob. Hood and Anthony Hood ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4QwHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=%22Simpson+and+Blackett%22&source=bl&ots=yd7-ZBDUMN&sig=3ZNB25fTZJsnaUE1MqlcE7JJAqY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIq4Od4s_OAhXMJsAKHeqQD0sQ6AEIGzAA

Simpson and Blackett, Fitters

Mark
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 20 August 16 12:22 BST (UK) »
Interesting stuff your last posts

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6034198#msg6034198

Richard Gibson age ? cooper Wren lane Selby 1800 (mountain book) suggest R Gibson was older than George Hood d 1845 by at least 10 years

Have you checked how far R Gibson goes back in land tax ? Selby or near parishes (and other side of the river).
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A long shot Blandford Street,

When your in the library again check 1861c for any Hood's, Arundal's, Russel's (Russell's) or Gibson's in houses in Blandford Street, Adjoining streets and backstreets behind Blandford Street backgardens or yards

# From Goughy's post

In 1861 living at 34 Blandford Street were a David (born 1831) and Dinah Rankin.  Both born Sunderland.  Occ Master Carpenter.  Also in building was a John P (Occ Draper) and Catherine McGregor
 
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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 20 August 16 13:03 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm and All

Fortunately, we turned over and saw the barrel making and whisky distillery, to the end.

Great shame Richard Gibson's (Cooper Dealer and Chapman), 1807 Bankruptcy file (Guildhall, London) was it seems destroyed!

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/2?_st=adv&_ep=Gibson&_cr1=B&_dss=range&_sd=1700&_ed=1840&_ro=any&_hb=tna

For 1807, there was a William Hogarth Gibson of 3 Saville Row, Walworth, Surrey, Warehouseman, in TNA, Kew, Cat reference B

Richard Gibson of Great Surrey Street, Southwark, Surrey, Grocer (Dealer and Chapman) but 1830 (too late), in Cat reference B

1791 The Universal British Directory of Trade, Commerce, and Manufacture
Got the 5 vol. on pdfs - sadly not 'Ctrl F' searchable (2 vols downloaded are and I have Hoods listed). Plenty of Gibsons and several Hoods in London, in various trading businesses.

Rather than put the County places together, the Directories have spread Yorkshire places, over the whole set, but NO Hood listed for Selby.

Just thought, I'll look out Newcastle, Gateshead and Bishopwearmouth/Sunderland and see what Hoods are listed.

Whitehead's Newcastle Directory 1787, printed by T. Angus
The other 1787 Directory for Newcastle list:-
Anthony Hood, fitter, office, Broad chair.
Robert Hood, Spirit-dealer, north fide [side], Sandhill.

[possibly Anthony Hood & Co., Newcastle, connected?]
https://archive.org/stream/bordererstablebo05richiala

Robert Hood from Newcastle to Sunderland
BNA online - Newcastle Courant 7 October 1786 - Robert Hood from Newcastle wishes to acquaint his friends and the public, that he has entered upon the King's Head Inn, SUNDERLAND.

South Bishopwearmouth / Sunderland
The Sunderland area, was where James and Sarah Hood of Selby, had their son James Alfred Hood (34 Blandford Street, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland 25 September 1863), before the birth of their next child at Selby.

Regards Mark

Anthony Hood was the inventor of a certain machine drive belt (can't find the patent), but found this ...

NC council - Archaeology 2005
"George Wray, brick maker on South Shore, also owned a rope-walk (HER 5650; Fig 12) in 1771 (op cit,  p 78). This may be the same as that established by Stoddart and Co. in 1795 at Saltmeadows (HER 4366: Fig 12) and soon owned solely by a former partner Anthony Hood. In 1799 Hood introduced a rope-making machine, patented by William Chapman in 1798. This technological innovation eventually superceded the earlier rope-walks and marked the beginning of the growth of ropemaking in Gateshead (op cit, p 78)."

You've got have a general interest story mention of Anthony in your tree -related or not.  (Gold bullets these.) I'm waiting for Kirklees Hall priory Hood's turning up one day.  :o
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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 22 September 16 18:33 BST (UK) »
Further to my last post above.

Attachment of ...

16 November 1782
"Mary" is brought back from Inverness by Hood (Arrival Shields)

It seems the "Mary" was plying the Inverness route and possibly why she was called the MARY of Inverness lying at Newcastle Quay for the 19th November 1782 Auction.

I'll have a look on Scotlands People later.

Regards Mark

Muster Roll Northern Ports Shields & C.
BT 98/130
Date 1779 - 1782
and
BT 98/131
Date 1781 - 1783

Both volumes inspected carefully, page by page for all the vessels called "Mary "

Not one of them called Mary had John Hood as Master, nor was John Hood crew on any of the Mary vessels listed!

So the Mary with Master John Hood, must have been from elsewhere.

Mark
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 28 September 16 11:13 BST (UK) »
Hello

Where the crews were paid is unknown, but the MARY had just called at Shields, in mid November 1782, immediately before she was offered for Auction on 19 November 1782, with John Hood, Master, at Newcastle Quay. - Replies 43 & 44 for images.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.36

The "MARY" must either be from elsewhere, or the page was one of those destroyed in the BT 98 Series.

Custom files (on TNA Cat) for Newcastle ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_ep=newcastle&_cr1=CUST&_dss=range&_sd=1779&_ed=1782&_ro=any&_hb=tna

I wondered if anyone has seen any of the above CUST (Customs) files and do they contain any Masters of vessels and crews, please?

Thank you,
Regards Mark
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 11 July 18 11:14 BST (UK) »
Hello

Despite Opt Character Recognition difficulties, we have found vessels sailing to and from Hull by a Master HOOD, who according to a 1780 document description and also a Lloyds Register late 1789, there was a "J. Hood" sailing from Hull to London and later to St Petersburg [Russia].

The Hull shipping company of J. Hood, Master of the Bedale were Messrs Burton & Taylor, in Hull (1780) found by dobfarm
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg5952833#msg5952833

John Hood has appeared in a Vessels List of 1778 (featured first post in this thread) and these same Agents at various places in this other 1778 advert, are also linked to shipping company Burton and Taylor, Hull, about this time.

Burton and Taylor, in Hull, stated in 1778 that vessels from London would be routed up the Aire & Calder Navigation from Haddlesey (now the Selby Canal I believe) to the Port at Selby, before going on to the destination Port of Hull. It appears Selby was most important on the Hull to London route and vice versa.

I'm hoping it is John Hood of Selby, Mariner and possibly also confirming why he moved from Scarborough and had a house at Selby from circa 1781 (confirmed in the earliest Selby Land Tax of 1781).

Later when "J. Hood" was Master on a Ship called Centurion in 1789 his shipping company were Hewson & Co. Hull.


Masters sailing to and from Hull, would also have paid into the Hull Trinity House Pension, so I'm hoping J. Hood will appear in the Hull Trinity House, Muster Rolls (from 1747) and other records at the Hull History Centre.

Trinity House, Hull, also had their own School from 1785 and they trained them to become Shipping Apprentices.

Hull Trinity House, even had an Adult, Navigation Evening School.

Mark
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 11 July 18 12:16 BST (UK) »
Advert (summary) 21st September 1778 (In the initial post of this thread)

Mr William Martin in Wakefield;
Mr John Fisher in Leeds;
Mr William Brooke in Selby;
Mr Bowling in York;
Mr Thomas Lowther at Salter-Hebble near Halifax, have a list of Ships sailing to Messrs Perkins and Robinson, Wharfingers, at the Gun and Shot Wharfe, Southwark.

The Ships and Masters were:-

This Set of Ships Consist of
The York Union, Captain, John Jefferson.
Industry, Robert Jefferson.
Rippon, Philip Thompson. 
Ouse, John Coulman.
Bedale, Richard Hinsleff.
Brothers, John Hood.
Nidd, Will. Stephenson.
Selby, Joseph Dean.
Rochdale, --------------------


Next year 1779, only find a John Hood sailing Liverpool:-

Goods Imported at the Port of Liverpool.
From the 1st to the 8th January.
In the Rebecca and Ann, John Hood, from Belfast.


Goods Imported at the Port of Liverpool.
From the 19th to the 26th March.
In the Rebecca and Ann, John Hood, from Waterford.

Of course the Liverpool sailings could another John Hood


According to the 6 February 1780 Letter from Burton & Taylor, Hull to William Martin, Wakefield, Aire and Calder Navigation correspondence, it does state, Bedale, J. Hood, arrived yesterday from London.

Re Hood in February 1780, also found the following:-
HULL, February 12,
Coasters Arrived. ...
; Bedale, Hood , Galeston, Stamford ;


19 March 1782 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, March 16.
COASTERS ARRIVED.  Amity, Harrow ; Industry, Hood ; George, Woodhouse ; John and Mary, Jones, and Queen, Meggitt, from London. Henry, Walton, fr. Plymouth.



27th September 1785, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 22.
COASTERS ARRIVED. ... ; Industry, Hood, from London.


23rd May 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, May 20.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... for London.


22nd August 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, August 19.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... from London.


19th September 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 16.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Staniland ; ... from London.
Coasters Sailed. ... Halifax, Staniland, for London.


3rd October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 30.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Jane, Hood ; Adventure, Smeaton ; and Nottingham, Wilkinson, for London.


31st October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, October 28.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Hood ; ... from London.


26 December 1786 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, December 21.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


29 December 1786 Stamford Mercury
HULL, Dec. 22.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


Hood and also a Godmond are sailing in the Centurion from Hull to Petersburg and London to Petersburg 1788 onward.

Pdf which mentions Hull and Petersburg
http://www.eylhs.org.uk/dl/89/trade-and-shipping-of-eighteenth-century-hull


Stamford Mercury, 5th October 1787
The dock company at Hull, have agreed to form a new dock, spacious enough to contain sixty ships.


Sheffield Register , 3rd May 1788
HULL
; Centurion, Hood ; all for Petersburgh, with horses, ale, mahogany, woollen-drapery, earthen and ironmongers ware, & c.


Stamford Mercury, 5th September 1788
HULL, Sept. 1.
Centurion, Hood, for Petersburgh, with woollendrapery, coton stuffs, earthenware, lead, &c. Cave, Jubb, for Riga, with earthenware.


Newcastle Courant, 27th September 1788
Sound List from the 6th to the 13th inst.
Ships    & Captains From        To          Loading
Centurion, Hood    Hull   Petersburgh Goods
Eliza, Gallilee London Riga Ballast


Sheffield Register, Yorkshire, ... Universal Advertiser 28 March 1789
SHIP NEWS.
HULL.
Arrived. ... Centurion, Hood ; ... all from London


Stamford Mercury, 28th August 1789
HULL, August 24.
Lvde, Birch ; Air Balloon, Metcalf ; Jane and Mary, Merchant ; Amity, Graham ; Henry, Strachan ; and Centurion, Hood, all from Petersburg, with deals, iron & c.


Newspaper images so far, Mark
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.