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Armed Forces / Re: Old military records 1500-1700's
« on: Saturday 08 January 22 22:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, did say England, the family starts out there. Was wondering if there was any site for physical military records we can look up, rather than write ups on the family. Thanks for the links. I'll keep looking

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Armed Forces / Old military records 1500-1700's
« on: Saturday 08 January 22 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
What's the Best place to look for any old military records please?

Looking for info on relatives

Sir Robert reade born Hampshire england 1568 died 1627

Colonel George Reade 1608-1674

Colonel Augustine  Warner born 1642-1681

Captain Lawrence Washington 1659-1697

Augustine Washington born 1694- 1743

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA ethnicity logic check / Unexpected result
« on: Saturday 08 January 22 09:00 GMT (UK)  »
ANDY: I am so sorry that you are having difficulty getting your head around the test results confirming your suspicions. I would suggest your father must be a really wonderful person to have stayed with your mother, and raised you.  I imagine that during the war years many people did all sorts of things they may have lived to regret. I can't even begin to think myself into those circumstances.
      May I clarify on this point from GUY....
QUOTE "That depends on what they are referring to, whether it is the DNA results or the ethnicity results. Ethnicity is a construct that changes. Whereas your DNA is fixed in every cell of your body and does not change unless you have other DNA added by various routes, e.g. bone marrow transplant, blood transfusion etc.......   Cheers  Guy"
I was a committed blood donor for 50 years..... Is it possible I could be handed up to 100 "DNA matches" that have zero ancestral connection, but who have been recipients of my blood donations??

don't worry red blood cells and platelets which are what is used in transfusions don't contain a nucleus, only  the white cells do. The donor blood is spun on a centrifuge before use to seperate white cells from red. Your donation of blood will not permenantly alter a person's own DNA 🙂

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA ethnicity logic check / Unexpected result
« on: Saturday 08 January 22 05:42 GMT (UK)  »

I think my father is a bit embarrassed by the whole thing - he doesn't seem to want anyone else to know.

Perfectly understandable; "a bit embarrassed" may be an understatement. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't want anyone outside the immediate family knowing.

Well, it's hardly his fault if my mother cheated. It's certainly tainted my opinion of her - but if it is confirmed he isn't my bio-father (which I am almost certain he won't be at this point) - I suppose I can't be too angry at her because I'd be wishing myself away.

I think he probably just doesn't want a big fuss over the whole thing. I've not told anyone yet anyhow, save for a few friends, and only one of my sisters knows. Not because I don't want people to know... but just because it doesn't make a huge amount of difference to our relationship.

I'd like to know how the culprit is, as it were, but not so we can have a relationship - I just want to complete as many of the pieces of the puzzle as I can.

I suppose both of us are also a little concerned of tainting everyone else's view of her too; her siblings, and nieces and nephews etc.

Andy, sometimes there are other reasons why a teenager  would find herself pregnant, and through no fault of her own, And Unable to tell anyone what happened.

 also could the date between your conception and her marriage mean she could have been pregnant before the marriage it doesn't always mean your mother cheated on your father. Other things in Life happen. Wish you the best with your search.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« on: Friday 07 January 22 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
Looool and yet here we are.. 11 pages of ppl Struggling to find our family records, pre 1864 for a Catholic (Catholic being the issue) family, who were fighting the British, and trying to clutch at straws like wrong spellings and attaching the wrong families. knowledge of local history is important.

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The Common Room / Re: Threatened over my Family History research
« on: Friday 07 January 22 08:43 GMT (UK)  »
Methinks he doth protest too much !
I don’t think he isn’t racially motivated !
In my view he ought really to be contacting the newspaper ,assuming it is still in existence ,that was your source.

If you added a note saying this was never proved and further research by other family members has that it is not true so you have amended your records accordingly .
I am not sure what else you can do.
What can he do?

Gosh, if I believed half of what my mother’s surviving siblings told me ——
 ::)
Don’t worry ,if he were not racially prejudiced he would be proud of the Aborigine connections.You could throw that at him, that far from not being racially motivated he patently is ,is that an offence ?
I think it is here .
He will probably then be more worried than you - I sincerely hope so.

You won’t be the only researcher who has this info in your tree ,what can he do? He won’t know  of all the others .

Tell him to take it up with the Newspaper.
Viktoria.
PS- Sorry folks your replies arrived whilst I was typing mine .We are in agreement anyway,
V.

yep, to all the above.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: hurley/ doocey familly
« on: Friday 07 January 22 04:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Maurice Hurley is my grandfather's uncle.

Maurice's father was Bartholomew Hurley. Their mother was Mary Ducey they were from Waterford Ireland. They were farm labourers.

Maurice's brother was John Hurley.

John Hurley was born in 1879 he was a coal miner (he died 1932 Dennistoun Glasgow record in Scotlands people )

John Hurley (1879) married Rose Anne Mcauley. Hamilton. (marriage record is on Scotlands people)

Rose Anne Mcauley was born 1881 (died 1940) They married in 1902 in and had 11 children.

one of those children is my grandfather John Hurley.

I have a list of my grandfather's siblings, one also was named Bartholomew he was born in 1908. If anyone wants the names dates of birth of the siblings i can write them up.

They lived in Hamilton Scotland, and my grandfather also lived there till he passed. Many of the family still live there now.

Maurice Hurley did go to the USA. Where He was known as Maurice Hurley.

I will ask my uncle if he knows anything more about his uncle Maurice.

The story my grandfather tells is they were wanted men and had to flee Ireland due to the English oppression and starvation of the Irish people. My grandfather was always greatful they did this and they took refuge in Scotland.

They were staunch Catholics and republicans.

I notice you all have a different spelling of Ducey, my uncle spelled his great grandmothers name this way, Ducey.

I Haven't read all the thread, will start from the beginning now.

Edit :Well I've read the thread, Mary the wife of Bartholomew, from Waterford, her name was spelt Ducey.

Perhaps this threads info has different families mixed up? Probably best to Stick to the original spellings.

BTW Its almost impossible to trace Catholic family records before 1864 in Ireland, because they were stored in local parish records, and many were destroyed by the British, this was done to destroy records of the true heirs and owners of land and property.

physically going to Ireland and asking in the locality if there are any records left is really the only way.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Marriage Laws in Jersey
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 13:33 GMT (UK)  »
The following is mentioned in the Marriage With A Deceased Wife's Sister Bill — (No 51) Volume 245: debated on Tuesday 6 May 1879

"Such marriages are practically legal in the whole Canadian Dominion, the West Indies, and, it is believed, entire Channel Islands".

Link: https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/1879-05-06/debates/a05758fa-a953-445d-83ec-fef5cfca2237/MarriageWithADeceasedWifeSSisterBill%E2%80%94(No51)

Yes Not unusual, or illegal in Jersey. It was done to keep family unit together after the death of a child's mother, and they could be cared for by their aunt. Jersey has completely different laws to the uk, and until today its not part of uk or great Britain.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: ‘Of the West’ in burial entries
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

According to Jerripedia, Clement Noel was buried in St. Martin on the 5th of March 1814 and was ‘of the West’. His wife Elizabeth was buried there on the 4th of August 1804, recorded as the wife of Clement ‘of the West’. Does anyone know what this might mean? I know there was a West regiment of the Jersey militia, but St. Martin is in the east of the island.

I’d greatly appreciate any help!

Adam

Hi, I'm from Jersey, i can't confirm if it's just that he came from the west of the island, but if you look up on you tube "take that grouville" by Headley le maitre, it will explain the banter that goes on between Jersey families from the east and west parishes 😉

There's a Methodist Church in the west at st.ouens, (but it wasn't built till 1809 five years after Elizabeth died, were they Methodists? as it was built after Elizabeth passed away, maybe  he was buried at st. Martins Methodist grave yard next to his wife, so they said they're of the west parish.

or maybe they just lived in st. Martins parish but were originally from st. Ouens.

The Parishes in the island, until today, pay for those living in their parish, whoose families afford the funeral and burial costs.

Amazing I know for an island 5 miles x 9 miles but many people didn't leave their parishes, there were even some variations in language between the parishes, our language is jerriais not English, English wasn't really spoken except in the town st. Helier and jerriais was the main spoken language in Jersey until the 1950's. So saying you're from "the west" of the Island,wasn't unusual.

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